Movie gun gaffes

[HankB]

Open Range, in other respects a great movie, has Costner fanning his SAA at least 9 times into a baddie.  Damnit.

Watched it last night.  Starting with Costner's opening shot I count 16 on-camera rounds out of his pistol before he switches over to the rifle.  

I take it neither one of you ever saw an old cowboy movie starring folks with names like Gene Autry or Roy Rogers, who seem to have routinely carried 50- and 100- shooters?  

Actually, my #1 movie gun peeve is how quiet guns are; even after a prolonged INDOOR firefight with everything from magnum pistols to high powered rifles and large caliber machine guns, the characters - none of whom wear ear protection - can still communicate in whispers. (Blackhawk Down was one of the few movies where the effect of muzzle blast on hearing was mentioned.)

[zxcvbob]

Actually, my #1 movie gun peeve is how quiet guns are; even after a prolonged INDOOR firefight with everything from magnum pistols to high powered rifles and large caliber machine guns, the characters - none of whom wear ear protection - can still communicate in whispers.

That bugs me too.  Last week I saw an assassin with a .308 rifle and the good guy with a high-powered handgun (I don't remember what, I think it was something like a .357 magnum 2" or 3" revolver) shooting it out in the metal hold of a boat.  Multiple shots fired.  No ear plugs.

[Perd Hapley]

http://www.hulu.com/watch/42614/saturday-night-live-snl-digital-short-giraffes

That may not be entirely accurate.

[Perd Hapley]

Actually, my #1 movie gun peeve is how quiet guns are; even after a prolonged INDOOR firefight with everything from magnum pistols to high powered rifles and large caliber machine guns, the characters - none of whom wear ear protection - can still communicate in whispers. (Blackhawk Down was one of the few movies where the effect of muzzle blast on hearing was mentioned.)

I don't think we can really complain about most of the chatting that goes on during Hollywood firefights. Even when a film is recreating actual events (like Blackhawk Down), a good narrative has to keep moving, keep advancing the plot, keep our interest. Dialogue is one of the main ways of doing that.

But you're right about the whispering. That, at least, they could avoid.

[Hawkmoon]

I don't know how many times I've seen the "without magazine gun can have no bang!" flaw.

Didn't they do the same thing in the Tommy Lee Jones flik U.S. Marshals?

Yep. Tommy swapped magazines on the bad guy, but he didn't rack the slide, so later on when the bad guy shot at him, he would have had that one live round that was already in the chamber.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mppR87YayQk&feature=relmfu

Right at the start of the clip ...

[Regolith]

Not sure what's worse; the gun gaffes or the law gaffes. I just watched an episode of Criminal Minds where one of the suspects had bought a pistol from an FFL in Chicago. Seven years ago. 

[Ben]

(Blackhawk Down was one of the few movies where the effect of muzzle blast on hearing was mentioned.)

Also Archer.

[SADShooter]

I take it neither one of you ever saw an old cowboy movie starring folks with names like Gene Autry or Roy Rogers, who seem to have routinely carried 50- and 100- shooters?  

Actually, my #1 movie gun peeve is how quiet guns are; even after a prolonged INDOOR firefight with everything from magnum pistols to high powered rifles and large caliber machine guns, the characters - none of whom wear ear protection - can still communicate in whispers. (Blackhawk Down was one of the few movies where the effect of muzzle blast on hearing was mentioned.)

While it was emphasized as part of a plot device, the climax of CopLand addressed it pretty well.

[230RN]

Oh, the gun blast thing reminds me of the loooooong ricochet noises.  Indoors.  Pwaaaaaaaaaaaaang.  Yeah, possibly in a large warehouse or an airplane hangar or even an underground parking lot, but still.

And sometimes it's the identical pwaaaaaaaaaaaaang repeated several times.

[geronimotwo]

Actually, my #1 movie gun peeve is how quiet guns are; even after a prolonged INDOOR firefight with everything from magnum pistols to high powered rifles and large caliber machine guns, the characters - none of whom wear ear protection - can still communicate in whispers. (Blackhawk Down was one of the few movies where the effect of muzzle blast on hearing was mentioned.)

as well as the small phht of a silencer. 

also,  there is a western where clint puts one round in his empty single action, spins the cylinder and shoots the bad guy.  yes, he is that good. 

[zahc]

Most recently I watched Rango which had a colt SAA-type gun with a swing-out cylinder. But there's more...the cylinder swung out the RIGHT side of the revolver.

I find this especially interesting because obviously some concept artist had to create the model for that gun, and then several different people no doubt had to work on rendering the 3D model for that thing. Before doing all that work, you think someone would, you know, look at a real gun, or know something about what a gun actually is. It would be like rendering a horse but with the knees bending the wrong way or something. It could be deliberate, but I can't imagine why.

[BlueStarLizzard]

Most recently I watched Rango which had a colt SAA-type gun with a swing-out cylinder. But there's more...the cylinder swung out the RIGHT side of the revolver.

I find this especially interesting because obviously some concept artist had to create the model for that gun, and then several different people no doubt had to work on rendering the 3D model for that thing. Before doing all that work, you think someone would, you know, look at a real gun, or know something about what a gun actually is. It would be like rendering a horse but with the knees bending the wrong way or something. It could be deliberate, but I can't imagine why.

Are you sure the footaged didn't get flipped in post production?

[zxcvbob]

Oh, the gun blast thing reminds me of the loooooong ricochet noises.  Indoors.  Pwaaaaaaaaaaaaang.  Yeah, possibly in a large warehouse or an airplane hangar or even an underground parking lot, but still.

And sometimes it's the identical pwaaaaaaaaaaaaang repeated several times.

How about how every monster or wild creature in every movie sounds like the same mountain lion sample?

[Hawkmoon]

Most recently I watched Rango which had a colt SAA-type gun with a swing-out cylinder. But there's more...the cylinder swung out the RIGHT side of the revolver.

I find this especially interesting because obviously some concept artist had to create the model for that gun, and then several different people no doubt had to work on rendering the 3D model for that thing. Before doing all that work, you think someone would, you know, look at a real gun, or know something about what a gun actually is. It would be like rendering a horse but with the knees bending the wrong way or something. It could be deliberate, but I can't imagine why.

That was a real gun: Savage 101

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLQSY-bRBZM

[Perd Hapley]

revolver not pistol myth make head hurt   

[Hawkmoon]

revolver not pistol myth make head hurt   

Yeah. New riddle:

When is a revolver not a revolver?

When it's a ___

[zxcvbob]

when it's ajar?