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So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« on: June 12, 2012, 06:41:01 PM »
I suppose by now most people have learned that Rand Paul has endorsed Mitt for president.  Predictably the wookie suiters went into vapor lock.  Establishment republicans (aka Rinos) yawned.

What says the APS brain trust.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2012, 07:21:37 PM »
RP for Veep?
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2012, 07:37:33 PM »
RP for Veep?

He's more valuable in the Senate.  (I think his endorsement was a little premature.  Romney is not to the magic number of delegates yet, but he's darn close.)
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2012, 07:47:51 PM »
RP for Veep?

Probably....Ron & Mitt may have already cut a deal for Paul's delegates. Rand may have jumped the gun on the endorsement, though....

Politics as usual....
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2012, 08:05:02 PM »
I choose c.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2012, 08:20:02 PM »
One more example...

The tea party & libertarian candidates are called extremists who don't know how to compromise.

But when an establishment candidate wins the nomination, they seem to set aside their pride and unify with the party leader.
When a tea party or libertarian candidate wins nomination, the establishment republican goes independent like a sore loser.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2012, 11:47:47 PM »
It's about Winning!  They are all part of "The Matrix," even Rand Paul.

But, that said, we have a Bystander Republic.  Most of us are just along for the ride.  We are here to pay taxes and be grateful and shut up.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2012, 12:03:42 AM »
I have the feeling that the endorsement is just what's expected of a politician who hopes to have the support of the party establishment for a presidential nomination in the future. Ya know, be a team player, etc.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2012, 07:33:51 AM »
I hope we all understand Rand will not be the party nominee in 2016. Or 2020.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2012, 07:38:17 AM »
And how did we all reach this conclusion?
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2012, 08:26:41 AM »
And how did we all reach this conclusion?
Rand's barber - if he has one. Seriously, just look at the dude's haircut.  :facepalm:

No way The Great Unwashed are going to vote for him, no matter how much sense he makes.


. . .Romney is not to the magic number of delegates yet, but he's darn close.
According to The Wall Street Journal on June 6, Romney had 1,398 delgates . . . 1,144 are needed to seal the nomination.  http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/06/06/romney-delegate-tally-now-at-1398/
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2012, 09:22:32 AM »
I have the feeling that the endorsement is just what's expected of a politician who hopes to have the support of the party establishment for seniority, choice committee appointments, etc. in the future. Ya know, be a team player, etc.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2012, 11:06:36 AM »

The answer to your thread title: Yes. Probably.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2012, 11:57:56 AM »

According to The Wall Street Journal on June 6, Romney had 1,398 delgates . . . 1,144 are needed to seal the nomination.  http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/06/06/romney-delegate-tally-now-at-1398/

They're lying.  Romney is right at 1100 now (he had less than that on June 6.)  Paul has about 240.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2012, 12:12:46 PM »
They're lying.  Romney is right at 1100 now (he had less than that on June 6.)  Paul has about 240.
Source?  ???
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2012, 12:14:00 PM »
Bob: how are you arriving at that number? Not counting straw poll states that went Romney but don't officially award delegates til the convention?
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2012, 12:28:55 PM »
I hope we all understand Rand will not be the party nominee in 2016. Or 2020.
???

I doubt he'll ever be a serious contender ......
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2012, 01:12:54 PM »
I say visionary.

 He realizes that B.O is going to seriously fubar this summer and will step up to the plate and rescue the situation.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2012, 01:26:36 PM »
Bob: how are you arriving at that number? Not counting straw poll states that went Romney but don't officially award delegates til the convention?

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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2012, 01:55:16 PM »
???

I doubt he'll ever be a serious contender ......

I doubt the Republicans will ever be a serious contender if they keep putting up guys like Romney....
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2012, 02:08:20 PM »
I doubt the Republicans will ever be a serious contender if they keep putting up guys like Romney....


Is that why the demos are running around in circles like headless chickens in fear the Annionted One will lose to Romney in November? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ;/


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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2012, 02:14:47 PM »
It's politics. It's not a sport.

Having your team carry the odd-shaped ball across the white line is not an objective in and of itself.
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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2012, 05:28:10 PM »

Is that why the demos are running around in circles like headless chickens in fear the Annionted One will lose to Romney in November? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ;/


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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2012, 05:35:10 PM »
The Big O is doing so bad he would likely lose to anyone this time around.  Hopefully, that trend doesn't change.

Let's not make the mistake of thinking people vote for him according to what he is doing instead of according to what he represents.   :mad:

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Re: So is Rand Paul a sellout or a visionary
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2012, 06:12:35 PM »
Let's not make the mistake of thinking people vote for him according to what he is doing instead of according to what he represents.   :mad:

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Oh, he may very well not be so lucky this time around. In any case, he now represents incompetence, malfeasance and economic decline to many people who voted for him on the last go.
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