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Obama Administration is a National Security Risk
« on: August 16, 2012, 02:53:31 AM »
http://www.westernjournalism.com/navy-seals-out-obama-adim-as-national-security-risk/


20 minute synopsis covering the Obama administrations divulging critical national security related information for political gain, something I'd like to note if done by anyone in the military or civilian intelligence agencies would result in them going to prison for the rest of their lives.

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Re: Obama Administration is a National Security Risk
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2012, 07:33:08 AM »
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Re: Obama Administration is a National Security Risk
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2012, 07:54:59 AM »
Technically, the president is the ultimate classification authority, so it is actually not illegal for him to divulge classified information, ie making it unclassified through release.  IIRC either Lowell wood (neat guy actually) or Teller once got in trouble for discussing something, and then it blew over because either the SecEng or president had already discussed it, making it de facto unclassified.

However, administration officials that are classifying authorities (ie not cabinet positions) or officials who aren't the authority for that information (eg SecDef releasing DOE stuff) releasing information IS illegal, so in this case, since the SecDef and DNI both have said, effectively, WTFO?!, it's either illegal, or the president okay'd it.

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Re: Obama Administration is a National Security Risk
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 11:31:01 AM »
In a sane country with a responsible, accountable government--as per the Framers' design--this wouldn't be happening.  This is how far we are from our Origins.
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Re: Obama Administration is a National Security Risk
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 07:53:24 PM »
Technically, the president is the ultimate classification authority, so it is actually not illegal for him to divulge classified information, ie making it unclassified through release.  IIRC either Lowell wood (neat guy actually) or Teller once got in trouble for discussing something, and then it blew over because either the SecEng or president had already discussed it, making it de facto unclassified.

However, administration officials that are classifying authorities (ie not cabinet positions) or officials who aren't the authority for that information (eg SecDef releasing DOE stuff) releasing information IS illegal, so in this case, since the SecDef and DNI both have said, effectively, WTFO?!, it's either illegal, or the president okay'd it.

Usually but not always true.  There are laws regarding declassifying.  Declassifying information to get someone killed or whatnot is usually illegal. 
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Re: Obama Administration is a National Security Risk
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2012, 08:25:49 PM »
True, but that is a different crime.

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Re: Obama Administration is a National Security Risk
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2012, 11:39:20 PM »
So, what grade of homicide are actions preceded by malicious forethought that results in numerous people being brutally tortured and murdered? Lets not make any bones about it, when you reveal this kind of information, people die and in very unpleasant ways.

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Re: Obama Administration is a National Security Risk
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 07:24:11 AM »
So, what grade of homicide are actions preceded by malicious forethought that results in numerous people being brutally tortured and murdered? Lets not make any bones about it, when you reveal this kind of information, people die and in very unpleasant ways.

Absolutely agree, my point was that it's aiding an enemy (treasonous) or being complicit in a death (manslaughter/murder) not the crime of revealing information.

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Re: Obama Administration is a National Security Risk
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 09:20:08 AM »
Security risk my *expletive deleted*ss - they probably have not yet paid all of those back taxes...
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