What if Romney chooses Ryan as a running mate?

[seeker_two]

Seems like trouble in Paradise.....

 http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=13&articleid=20120813_13_A5_CUTLIN193301&rss_lnk=1

[slingshot]

I think Romney is stuck with the Ryan budget proposal unless he digs in and makes a very serious proposal between now and election time that is different from the Ryan plan.

There may be a slight nuance of which secondary policies are applied, but either candidate will "lead" us down the same road map, guaranteed.

I don't think so as long as there is support from Congress.  If Obama wins regardless of proportions, it will be 4 more years of disfunctional government because I don't see the Republicans loosing the House.  It took a while to get to this point and it is going to take a while to change things.  For sure, there will be no change if Obama is re-elected.  If it looks like Obama is likely to wind around October, look for a major gun and ammunition buying spree nationally.

[Jamisjockey]

Seems like trouble in Paradise.....

 http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=13&articleid=20120813_13_A5_CUTLIN193301&rss_lnk=1

Sweet merciful Allah, it's McCain/Palin all over again.

[roo_ster]

Sweet merciful Allah, it's McCain/Palin all over again.

What a nitwit.  Dude kicks himself in the jimmy.

Romney is going to have to defend it anyway.  The MSM is going to ask him sixty ways to Sunday about the Ryan Plan and "I am running on my own milquetoast and forgettable plan, Bob," is not going to cut it or make the Ryan Plan questions stop.

I don't even recall Romney's plan, it was such a non-entity, and I am a certified CSPAN & political junkie.  

The Ryan Plan wasn't perfect & didn't go far enough, but it has been the only non-Paul plan to move in the right direction.

So much for getting the Tea party folks excited.  Romney has managed to take on the baggage of the Ryan Plan, while pissing away the upside of getting his base excited.  Way to go.  This dude will go far.  We're humped.

[Perd Hapley]

Sweet merciful Allah, it's McCain/Palin all over again.

Yup. Nominate a safe, "electable" RINO candidate, then hedge your bets by putting one of the good guys in the VP slot. Then get all nervous when the media doesn't like him. 

[MicroBalrog]

He... tried to distance himself... from his own VP?

[seeker_two]

He... tried to distance himself... from his own VP?

....and that's why we call it "The Stupid Party"...... 

[Fitz]

Remember kids, when these two dipsticks lose, it will be my fault for voting my principles, right? I mean, it can't possibly be that Romney is a *expletive deleted* bag, can it?

[agricola]

He... tried to distance himself... from his own VP?

I honestly would not be amazed if he tried to distance himself from himself.

[makattak]

I honestly would am not be amazed if since he already has tried to distance himself from himself.

Fixed that for you.

Romney's position has always been: "All that stuff from my Massachusetts campaigns before I was running for President?... uh, yeah... never mind."

[TommyGunn]

Remember kids, when these two dipsticks lose, it will be my fault for voting my principles, right? I mean, it can't possibly be that Romney is a *expletive deleted* bag, can it?

  If you think Romney is so bad please vote for Obama.

[AZRedhawk44]

  If you think Romney is so bad please vote for Obama.

I'm half tempted to.

I'd rather it all go to shinola on my watch, than my kids' watch.

[Scout26]

  If you think Romney is so bad please vote for Obama.

I'm very tempted to.  I mean we're already going down the shießhole at 90mph, might as well stomp the rest of the way down on the accelerator and go head on into the wall.   Maybe after the smoke clears we'll be back to where we started at ~220 years ago.

[longeyes]

Voting for Obama would be an act of nihilism, not pragmatism.  Your watch WILL be your kids' watch.   You will not be able to shield your kids or your grandkids from a real civil war.

I still think it will come down to divorce, and if we can do that peaceably we damn well should.

[Fitz]

  If you think Romney is so bad please vote for Obama.

Who said anything about voting for Obama?

[brimic]

Even lefties think Ryan has the right ideas. Romney is a *expletive deleted*.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/14/erskine-bowles-paul-ryan_n_1775313.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012


Ron nailed it in the original post:

There is a buzz out there that he seriously considering Paul Ryan.

It would certainly shore up Romney with the fiscally conservative right.

On the other hand it might consign Ryan and his budgetary plans to oblivion, both if Romney wins or loses.

Romney would be free to ignore the fiscal conservatives if he wins, the R's will just fall in line like they always do, going along to get along.

If Romney/Ryan loses he will forever be the failed VP pick of Romney as far as the media is concerned. Nobody will listen to him because the media will remind us continually how the voters rejected him and his vision.

[grampster]

All of you who would like to make sure the shtf with another 4yrs of Obama never lived in the early to mid 20th century and earlier.  Get Dixie Lee Ray's book Trashing the Planet and let a mid 80 year old, brilliant person, who wrote that book 20 years ago, tell you how wonderful it was to live in the olden days.

[TommyGunn]

Who said anything about voting for Obama?

I think I did.....

[longeyes]

Both mainstream political parties are, when the finery comes off and the raw bones exposed, "progressive."  It has been a while, a looong while, since government and big business were not sharing the same bunk.  There will be a lot of palaver about "jobs" in the October "debates" but precious little fact, reason, or history.  Are Americans not entitled to know why they not only ended up buying Samsung but working for Samsung?  Would it not be useful to unpack our Present in terms of our Past, delving into what happened in the aftermath of WW II and the anti-colonialist movements, discussing how the WTO, IMG, GATT shaped the global economy--way outside the ken and will of the average American--and how the GSP diddled the "free market" in the interests of globalism and the new, progressive "enlightened economics."  Americans' economic future was cast in stone decades ago, and it will take a tough stonebreaker to change any of it.  I don't see any of these stonebreakers in the current race.

[MechAg94]

A quick glance at the article says to me that it wasn't so much "distancing himself" as just saying, I am the lead on this ticket, not Ryan, which makes sense.  I like Ryan as the VP because he can influence what happens in a Romney administration.  I don't assume Romney will adopt all of Ryan's ideas.

[agricola]

Both mainstream political parties are, when the finery comes off and the raw bones exposed, "progressive."  It has been a while, a looong while, since government and big business were not sharing the same bunk.  There will be a lot of palaver about "jobs" in the October "debates" but precious little fact, reason, or history.  Are Americans not entitled to know why they not only ended up buying Samsung but working for Samsung?  Would it not be useful to unpack our Present in terms of our Past, delving into what happened in the aftermath of WW II and the anti-colonialist movements, discussing how the WTO, IMG, GATT shaped the global economy--way outside the ken and will of the average American--and how the GSP diddled the "free market" in the interests of globalism and the new, progressive "enlightened economics."  Americans' economic future was cast in stone decades ago, and it will take a tough stonebreaker to change any of it.  I don't see any of these stonebreakers in the current race.

There is a huge amount of sense in this post. 

As a related aside, do you know that the annual cost of just Medicaid in the US is more than twice the cost of the entire NHS in the UK, despite them serving roughly the same amount of people?

[Perd Hapley]

There is a huge amount of sense in this post. 

As a related aside, do you know that the annual cost of just Medicaid in the US is more than twice the cost of the entire NHS in the UK, despite them serving roughly the same amount of people?

So you only get half the socialism?

[agricola]

So you only get half the socialism?

.... and we get to be told how socialist it is by your congress-drones!  Its win-win.

[makattak]

There is a huge amount of sense in this post. 

As a related aside, do you know that the annual cost of just Medicaid in the US is more than twice the cost of the entire NHS in the UK, despite them serving roughly the same amount of people?

Not surprising. Socialism sucks. However, Americans (bureaucrats) are ESPECIALLY bad at administering socialism, so it sucks even more in the US.

[Balog]

Looking at the aggregate polling, Obama wins by 3-6%.  The numbers have shown this for the last several months, back to before the GOP primary had shaken itself out.  There has been no significant change over that span.
There were some occasions early on in the primary when the generic GOP candidate bested Obama slightly in the polling, but when it was narrowed down to specific candidates, Obama usually prevailed.
I think we're pretty much hosed come November.

All polling is bulls***. Not saying that means RR is gonna take it, just pointing out that "scientific polling" is as much an oxymoron as calling sociology a science.