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NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« on: August 21, 2012, 07:09:56 PM »
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/21/13396651-nbcwsj-poll-approval-of-congress-hits-bottom?lite

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12% of voters surveyed approve of Congress' work
82% of voters surveyed disapprove of Congress' work

36% view the Rep Party as positive
45% view the Rep party negative

42% view the Dem Party as positive
40% view the Dem party as negative
I find the Congressional information interesting.

Note that 1,000 voters were surveyed, so we have the normal extrapolation to the population.
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 07:51:12 PM »
It can always go lower.  (I learned that in the stock market)
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 07:54:58 PM »
It can always go lower.  (I learned that in the stock market)

Yup.  If it's > 0, it hasn't hit bottom.

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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 08:36:13 PM »
In the MSM the underlying premise or assumption is that the numbers are low because the house and senate haven't been productive, ie done something.

My "progressive" coworkers and I may both give congress poor marks if polled but for dramatically different reasons.

Many like I may very well be disappointed the '10 elections bore such poor results in policy.

On the good days I feel Obama and the Dems are in for a shellacking this fall. Then I interact with actual humans in the real flesh world and realize we're doomed  :laugh:

  
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 09:53:31 PM »
I bet they are still going to keep their jobs.
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2012, 01:46:00 AM »
I agree with Ron.

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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 09:29:48 AM »
Who are these 12% of people that approve?
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 10:27:02 AM »
Who are these 12% of people that approve?
Congressional staffers and the ones who are happy with their current welfare benefits, Federal pensions, or phoney baloney Federal jobs.
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 10:53:28 AM »
They don't like Congress, but they love The System.  Is Obama something other than a product of Congress?  Maybe I missed something there. 

Too many Americans would, if they had the chance, behave no differently than the Congresscritters they contemn.
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2012, 10:56:49 AM »
They don't like Congress, but they love The System.  Is Obama something other than a product of Congress?  Maybe I missed something there. 

Too many Americans would, if they had the chance, behave no differently than the Congresscritters they contemn.

I would vote NO on everything except the occasional repeal of a previous law, and spend the rest of my time on vacation  :P
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2012, 11:40:48 AM »
Congressional staffers and the ones who are happy with their current welfare benefits, Federal pensions, or phoney baloney Federal jobs.
I forget.  12% is probably Govt employees and their families.  That may even be low.
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2012, 04:58:34 PM »
A Congressman represents his district... but the views of people in his district are different from views elsewhere.

It's technically possible to have a man who lives in, say, a very left-wing district in MA, approves greatly of his Democrat Congressman - whom he voted for - and a Texan who approves greatly of his conservative Republican Congressman - and both of them disapprove of the activities of Congress as a whole. Yet come election day, both of them will vote to re-elect their respective incumbent.
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2012, 02:34:24 PM »
A Congressman represents his district... but the views of people in his district are different from views elsewhere.

It's technically possible to have a man who lives in, say, a very left-wing district in MA, approves greatly of his Democrat Congressman - whom he voted for - and a Texan who approves greatly of his conservative Republican Congressman - and both of them disapprove of the activities of Congress as a whole. Yet come election day, both of them will vote to re-elect their respective incumbent.
Yep. I doubt that many of Ron Paul's most enthusiastic supporters - those in his district - have much approval of congress, even though the guy they love keeps getting elected to the House.

And . . . a person who holds his nose and votes against the candidate he thinks is worse (as opposed to voting for someone he really likes, since there's nobody like that on the ballot) is unlikely to be happy with the outcome even when the guy he voted against loses.
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2012, 05:39:15 PM »
You can vote for somebody you like maybe 60% versus somebody you like maybe 10%
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2012, 10:45:23 AM »
I have been very irratated that B. Obama does not lead.  He puts Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid in charge of leading and hence can simply complain about the gridlock.  The President IS responsible.  I just wish that 90% of black voters understood that.  He thinks about Congress from the bottom up just like he thinks about the economy.
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2012, 11:14:39 AM »
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Obama does not lead.

The trouble is that he is leading the wrong direction.  =(

Not that LOTE* is much better.  ;/


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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2012, 12:30:24 PM »
You can vote for somebody you like maybe 60% versus somebody you like maybe 10%
???  Are you sure you meant to say this?  :-X
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2012, 12:53:08 PM »
You can't say it has hit bottom until you see strange fruit hanging on Capitol Hill.

But considering the LOTE* paradigm of thought dominating the electorate's minds, I don't see that happening ever...never ever.

Ah, good ol' LOTE... This time it will save the Republic!

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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2012, 12:57:03 PM »
You can't say it has hit bottom until you see strange fruit hanging on Capitol Hill.

Not sure what you mean by that phrase.
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2012, 03:58:17 PM »
Not sure what you mean by that phrase.

"Strange fruit hanging from trees" it's an allusion to lynched bodies (from a 1930s song)...

I meant that as low as their approval is now, it can most likely go lower. I'd wait till I see angry mobs gathering around Congress with violent retribution in mind before declaring it has hit bottom.
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2012, 04:00:19 PM »
I forget.  12% is probably Govt employees and their families.  That may even be low.

I know plenty of Govvies who are not happy at all
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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2012, 04:43:48 PM »


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Re: NBC/WSJ poll: Approval of Congress hits bottom
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2012, 08:49:48 PM »
We have plenty of "leadership" in this country.  The problem is that leadership does not inhere in the people we elect or, for that matter, the people we know.  We didn't get to the manifest problesm of 2012 without plenty of people actively and effectively steering this course.  The myth is that we have representative government.

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