Interesting Dichotomy Between RNC and DNC Conventions

[Ben]

Republican convention:

Clint Eastwood: "We own this country"


Democratic convention:

DNC: "We belong to the government"

http://michellemalkin.com/2012/09/04/creepy-video-dnc-propaganda-clip-asserts-that-we-all-belong-to-government/

[AJ Dual]

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, I can tell that they meant, "Our government is one thing we all have in common" etc.

I get that.

However, the subtext of individualism vs. collectivism is still there for all to see.

[Ben]

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, I can tell that they meant, "Our government is one thing we all have in common" etc.

Agreed.

However, the subtext of individualism vs. collectivism is still there for all to see.

And agreed again. :)

[Perd Hapley]

 

[makattak]

Republican convention:

Clint Eastwood: "We own this country"


Democratic convention:

DNC: "We belong to the government"

http://michellemalkin.com/2012/09/04/creepy-video-dnc-propaganda-clip-asserts-that-we-all-belong-to-government/

Heard that statement on the radio last night. Scared the crap out of me.

And, even taking their premise, the BASIC RULE of organizations is that the larger the organization, the narrower should be your aim in order to avoid infighting and discontentment.

Therefore, if "government is the thing we all belong too" it means it should be doing FAR LESS than any other organization.

Yet all we see are new missions, new aims, and new means of dividing and creating malice within the populace.

[Jamisjockey]

As Levin put it "The R's long for a leader, the D's long for a dictator"

[MechAg94]

We have our country in common.  I guess we might have our govt in common also, but only in a negative view IMO.  

I think "country" versus "govt" in this context is a pretty important distinction. 

[Ron]

The left conflates our country and our government.

That's the difference between those who hold the philosophy of individual rights and individualism vs the social contract, welfare state model.

[Fitz]

I'm not so sure that the "R" side is all about "freedom" and individualism.

Seems like they want to control the minutiae of my life just as much as the D's do, just in different ways.

[geronimotwo]

I'm not so sure that the "R" side is all about "freedom" and individualism.

Seems like they want to control the minutiae of my life just as much as the D's do, just in different ways.

we need a third party, throw out the other two. 

and yet every time they pass out the koolaid there seem to be enough takers.

[Fitz]

we need a third party, throw out the other two. 

and yet every time they pass out the koolaid there seem to be enough takers.

BUT IF YOU VOTE FOR WHO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN YOU'RE A COMMUNIST AND THE TERRORISTS WIN!

[Ron]

I'm not so sure that the "R" side is all about "freedom" and individualism.

Seems like they want to control the minutiae of my life just as much as the D's do, just in different ways.

Just for clarification I never referenced Republicans or even conservatives in my post. I just juxtaposed our political left with folks who hold a more classical liberal, libertarian point of view.

The Republicans have a whole host of their own issues indeed.

[roo_ster]

As Levin put it "The R's long for a leader, the D's long for a dictator"

He only says that because he reads what they write.

"Paging Tom Friedman..."

[Ron]

Just think about how much Obama, Reid and Pelosi could get done if they didn't have to worry about elections!

[Perd Hapley]

Just think about how much Obama, Reid and Pelosi could get done if they didn't have to worry about elections!

They're from the government, and they want to help.

[longeyes]

We have our country in common.  I guess we might have our govt in common also, but only in a negative view IMO.  

I think "country" versus "govt" in this context is a pretty important distinction. 

+1

[MechAg94]

I'm not so sure that the "R" side is all about "freedom" and individualism.

Seems like they want to control the minutiae of my life just as much as the D's do, just in different ways.

You can say that until you are blue in the face (and you do), but at least some R's believe that, where to my knowledge there are no D's in political office who believe it.  That is a big difference even if the R's don't meet your standard of perfection. 

I think some of you assume that if I say anything at all positive about Republicans, that I am some sort of Republican fanatic who loves everything about the party and think they can and have done no wrong ever.   

[Fitz]

You can say that until you are blue in the face (and you do), but at least some R's believe that, where to my knowledge there are no D's in political office who believe it.  That is a big difference even if the R's don't meet your standard of perfection. 

I think some of you assume that if I say anything at all positive about Republicans, that I am some sort of Republican fanatic who loves everything about the party and think they can and have done no wrong ever.   

Almost as absurd as suggesting that those of us disgusted with the republican party are "the problem" or "the enemy," which is what a good chunk of the GOP does.

[MillCreek]

Almost as absurd as suggesting that those of us disgusted with the republican party are "the problem" or "the enemy," which is what a good chunk of the GOP does.

Or that if you don't support and echo at all times every aspect of the Republican party platform/Newspeak, you are nothing more than a liberal Statist who has Michael Moore on speed dial.

[AJ Dual]

I'm not so sure that the "R" side is all about "freedom" and individualism.

Seems like they want to control the minutiae of my life just as much as the D's do, just in different ways.

For me, it always comes down to this. One fights a revolution, or worse, keeps their family out of the cattle cars with guns, and money.

Gay marriage, abortion, subsidized mass transit, green energy, porn, socialized medicine, unions... none of those would help me do those two most critical things.

Hence, that's how I vote.

Stuff the Right might try and control that I don't want them to? Well, the nominal GOP platform leaves me better able to kill them (well, try to, anyway) should they run amok. Not so much with the DNC were they to have their way in all things. Disarmed, taxed to death, if I'm actually still even employed, and not simply forced onto the dole, and living in a neo-ghetto because of Section 8 social engineering isn't a very strong position to fight back from.

[Fitz]

Well said

[grampster]

Our two political parties:

The Stupid Party

The Densecrats

 

[HankB]

Our two political parties:

The Stupid Party

The Densecrats The Evil Party

 

FIFY. 

[Jamisjockey]

we need a third party, throw out the other two. 

and yet every time they pass out the koolaid there seem to be enough takers.

I predict if Romney wins and doesn't deliver death of obamacare, we'll see a third party.

[Blakenzy]

I predict if Romney wins and doesn't deliver death of obamacare, we'll see a third party.

I've got the itching feeling that Romney will be the disillusion of many Republicans, just as Obama was for many Democrats.