Egypt and Libya embassy attacks

[Hutch]

bingo!

and there are parallels   in other places  like belfast    or any us inner city where a gang rules

That is why when there are free elections in the ME the moderates always run the table winning everything. Locking out the more extremist groups from having any authority.

Please tell me that's sarcasm...  The last time the Palestinians voted, they ousted a murderous band of cutthroats, (Fatah) and replaced them with an even more murderous band of cutthroats (Hamas).  As a young man, I used to believe that, given relief from an oppressive government, everyone would choose to be an Adam Smith sort of laissez faire capitalist/republican.  What a fool I was.

[grampster]

Nope.  People vote for whoever can promise them the most for nothing.

[Blakenzy]

All governments end up being murderous bands of cutthroats, the question is: are you on the side that benefits from it or not? And more importantly, what do you do when they turn the throat cutting on you?

[zxcvbob]

I wonder if we could starve (literally) the entire middle east -- excepting Israel, of course.  Do we need their oil that bad? 

[MicroBalrog]

Please tell me that's sarcasm...  The last time the Palestinians voted, they ousted a murderous band of cutthroats, (Fatah) and replaced them with an even more murderous band of cutthroats (Hamas).  As a young man, I used to believe that, given relief from an oppressive government, everyone would choose to be an Adam Smith sort of laissez faire capitalist/republican.  What a fool I was.

No, they didn't.

Hamas got 35% of the popular vote and got ousted from half of Palestine.

[Scout26]

Muslims and Scientologists don't have to eat those tasteless wafers.

Those tasteless wafers are Matzah.

 

[Monkeyleg]

How's Matzah with hot sauce?

[MicroBalrog]

How's Matzah with hot sauce?

Funnily enough, that's part of the Passover meal.

[Scout26]

FYI for all the Catholics out there.

Your Mass (aka a recreation of the Last Supper) is where Jesus had his friends over for Passover.  So you are celebrating Passover every Sunday.



 

[Jamie B]

FYI for all the Catholics out there.

Your Mass (aka a recreation of the Last Supper) is where Jesus had his friends over for Passover.  So you are celebrating Passover every Sunday.



 

Yea, well, we'll get it right one of these days.......

[lupinus]

FYI for all the Catholics out there.

Your Mass (aka a recreation of the Last Supper) is where Jesus had his friends over for Passover.  So you are celebrating Passover every Sunday.



 

Well...yeah.

For the past four or five years we've been hosting an annual Christ in the Passover presentation done by a group of Messianic Jews, and do a full on passover meal (minus a Jewish mother in law or aunt unfortunately, so not quite the full experience) every couple of years.

[Blakenzy]

Related(?) unrest takes 2 Marines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VI2XQ8-8Ks

LOL @ the prince harry comment.

[charby]

And how are both different from catholicism?

Catholicism has already gone through their convert the whole world and kill/torture those who don't agree period.

[zxcvbob]

Well...yeah.

For the past four or five years we've been hosting an annual Christ in the Passover presentation done by a group of Messianic Jews, and do a full on passover meal (minus a Jewish mother in law or aunt unfortunately, so not quite the full experience) every couple of years.

Messianic Jew is a tough row to hoe.  So has Elijah ever wandered in to your Passover?  (I vaguely remember a SNL skit where Jon Lovett was Elijah. Amusing but not very funny, OTOH I'm not Jewish.  I wonder how many people got it at all?)  The Empty Chair really represents more than just Elijah doesn't it?  Like missing family members?

[lupinus]

Messianic Jew is a tough row to hoe.  So has Elijah ever wandered in to your Passover?  (I vaguely remember a SNL skit where Jon Lovett was Elijah. Amusing but not very funny, OTOH I'm not Jewish.  I wonder how many people got it at all?)  The Empty Chair really represents more than just Elijah doesn't it?  Like missing family members?

Far as I know it's just for Elijah, but a lot of things in the passover meal are based on tradition (hiding the Matzo, dad doing a ceremonial sweeping of a whopping 1 square inch of tile after mom cleans for a month...etc.) so maybe in certain circles it might mean more.

And yes, I suppose it can be a tough row to hoe. But then we're just a bunch of Lutherans.

[birdman]

I wonder if we could starve (literally) the entire middle east -- excepting Israel, of course.  Do we need their oil that bad? 

Yes and no.  To survive, assuming $10-20/gal gas is survivable, no.  To not crush our economy, yes.

[longeyes]

Our "economy" may need to be brought back to its fighting weight--if we want to survive as a nation and a culture.  I realize that will displease the constituency that confuses growth with OCD.

[Scout26]

Yes and no.  To survive, assuming $10-20/gal gas is survivable, no.  To not crush our economy, yes.

Drill in ANWR, off both coasts, Keystone Pipeline, Canadian and Colorado Oilsands and we won't have $10-20 a gallon gas.  Maybe $2-3 if we also build a couple refineries as well.

[French G.]

Drill in ANWR, off both coasts, Keystone Pipeline, Canadian and Colorado Oilsands and we won't have $10-20 a gallon gas.  Maybe $2-3 if we also build a couple refineries as well.

Do all that and some saner people in the sandbox will line up all the extremists against a wall and then beg someone(China) to buy their oil. It's the only chip in front of them, probably why idiot wants the bomb, he's just another 3rd world crackpot if the world stops buying Iranian oil.

[MicroBalrog]

Catholicism has already gone through their convert the whole world and kill/torture those who don't agree period.

So has most of Islam.

[zxcvbob]

So has most of Islam.

I'm not so sure of that; I think most are just not devout and I have no beef with them.  Like people who say they are Christians because they live in America. 

[MicroBalrog]

1,211,148,707 Muslims killed no ambassadors today.

[RoadKingLarry]

1,211,148,707 Muslims killed no ambassadors today.

Yet...

[longeyes]

1,211,148,707 Muslims killed no ambassadors today.

And what percentage of this 1.2 billion people is effectively muzzled, cowed, intimidated?  What percentage would dare protest from the opposite point of view?

[RocketMan]

And what percentage of this 1.2 billion people is effectively muzzled, cowed, intimidated?  What percentage would dare protest from the opposite point of view?

Good question.  Another might be, how many particularly care about Islamic extremism?