Author Topic: Questions Arise About Anti-Islam Filmmaker (Read 18033 times)

kgbsquirrel · « **Reply #50 on:** September 15, 2012, 04:48:16 PM »

Quote from: roo_ster on September 15, 2012, 04:21:49 PM

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/150745/
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/09/anti-muslim-film-nakoula-basseley-innocence-muslims.html

[CSD] He must have done something to warrant having his (pointless and unreasonable) civil rights stomped on. The government only ever goes after people who deserve it. [/CSD]

Yeah, this is gonna get interesting, in the Chinese curse sort of way.

longeyes · « **Reply #51 on:** September 15, 2012, 05:13:59 PM »

They are setting us up for the criminalization of speech, as they already have in other parts of the Anglosphere.

roo_ster · « **Reply #52 on:** September 15, 2012, 10:36:30 PM »

roo_ster · « **Reply #53 on:** September 15, 2012, 10:42:23 PM »

They told me if I voted for McCain, brownshirts would roust politically troublesome people in the middle of the night.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #54 on:** September 15, 2012, 10:50:51 PM »

Quote from: kgbsquirrel on September 15, 2012, 04:48:16 PM

[CSD] He must have done something to warrant having his (pointless and unreasonable) civil rights stomped on. The government only ever goes after people who deserve it. [/CSD]

Yeah, this is gonna get interesting, in the Chinese curse sort of way.

less interesting than your fevered dreams. his legal troubles started well before this. and he plead guilty

zxcvbob · « **Reply #55 on:** September 15, 2012, 10:51:13 PM »

They told me if I voted for Ron Paul I was wasting my vote -- and that was in the Primaries

I missed the whole point; I thought we were just riffing on "they told me"

(I hate it when I do that)

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #56 on:** September 15, 2012, 10:54:27 PM »

not sure if he plead guilty to the meth charges. that probation condition about alias's is "problematic" for him

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-09-14/news/sns-rt-us-protests-californiabre88d05p-20120913_1_nakoula-basseley-nakoula-bank-fraud-anti-muslim-video

brimic · « **Reply #57 on:** September 15, 2012, 11:05:46 PM »

Quote from: brimic on September 14, 2012, 12:37:25 AM

Just finished watching it on youtube.
The production value is not even to the level of what a high schooler might make.
I probably spent more time reading comments which had far greater entertainment value.

I can only a few reasons for muslims/obama blaming this movie for the embassy attacks:
A. muslims have within their ranks people who truly are bleeding idiot barbarians.
B. The obama admin wants to use this as an example to crack down on free speech.
C. Both A&B

C.

roo_ster · « **Reply #58 on:** September 16, 2012, 07:09:19 AM »

Where is the ACLU?

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/316902/wheres-aclu-mark-krikorian

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You want to know why normal people feel nothing but loathing and contempt for the ACLU? Just look at their complete silence on this Mohammed-video business. Not a peep on their website, which is all war-on-women, get-out-the-vote Democratic-party talking points. This despite the fact that the FBI is being sent to hunt down the producers of material that is unquestionably protected by the First Amendment.

vaskidmark · « **Reply #59 on:** September 16, 2012, 09:27:59 AM »

http://www.quickmeme.com/Defend-the-Constitution/?upcoming

OMFG, some of them are actually quite good.

stay safe.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #60 on:** September 16, 2012, 10:04:58 AM »

why would the aclu intervene for a guy who pretty clearly violated his probation? hes lucky his po did't jugg him

Ben · « **Reply #61 on:** September 16, 2012, 10:21:17 AM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 16, 2012, 10:04:58 AM

why would the aclu intervene for a guy who pretty clearly violated his probation? hes lucky his po did't jugg him

What does probation for ANY crime have to do with the first amendment and getting the ACLU to do what they say they're there for? Using computers to make and distribute the movie (potential probation violation), and the movie itself, are two completely different issues. Other than the fact that if he'd made a youtube video on how to bake his favorite cookie recipe, no one would be taking him in for violating his probation.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #62 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:00:19 AM »

Quote from: Ben on September 16, 2012, 10:21:17 AM

What does probation for ANY crime have to do with the first amendment and getting the ACLU to do what they say they're there for? Using computers to make and distribute the movie (potential probation violation), and the movie itself, are two completely different issues. Other than the fact that if he'd made a youtube video on how to bake his favorite cookie recipe, no one would be taking him in for violating his probation.

has he been charged over the film? or are you trying to spin his meeting with his po into something more sinister? is he being held? no? as a parole he gives up many rights. he has options even then. decline parole

Ben · « **Reply #63 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:03:50 AM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 16, 2012, 11:00:19 AM

or are you trying to spin his meeting with his po into something more sinister?

Yes, quite frankly, I am. As I mentioned, if it was a YouTube video on baking cookies, he wouldn't have been investigated by the FBI, nor would he have been brought in for parole violation questioning.

Waitone · « **Reply #64 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:03:53 AM »

What bothers me is apparently the DoJ evidently outted the film maker. Why is DoJ taking side and not defending the right of free speech? Just one more example of how the DoJ has evidently flipped allegiances. That one assumption creates a whole host of questions no one to date has the bollocks to answer.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #65 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:07:56 AM »

Quote from: Ben on September 16, 2012, 11:03:50 AM

Yes, quite frankly, I am. As I mentioned, if it was a YouTube video on baking cookies, he wouldn't have been investigated by the FBI, nor would he have been brought in for parole violation questioning.

you not aware/ignoring the conditions of his parole? one of which he clearly broke?

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #66 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:09:12 AM »

Quote from: Ben on September 16, 2012, 11:03:50 AM

Yes, quite frankly, I am. As I mentioned, if it was a YouTube video on baking cookies, he wouldn't have been investigated by the FBI, nor would he have been brought in for parole violation questioning.

if he used an alias in direct conflict with a specific condition of his parole he could be and should be

Ben · « **Reply #67 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:10:13 AM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 16, 2012, 11:07:56 AM

you not aware/ignoring the conditions of his parole? one of which he clearly broke?

Clear case of not seeing the forest for the trees.

Scout26 · « **Reply #68 on:** September 16, 2012, 11:29:58 AM »

And how many (or what percentage) parolees get hauled in for violating their parole ?? Damn few, unless they interfere with the president's re-election campaign.

Forest, meet Tree.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #69 on:** September 16, 2012, 01:20:08 PM »

Quote from: scout26 on September 16, 2012, 11:29:58 AM

And how many (or what percentage) parolees get hauled in for violating their parole ?? Damn few, unless they interfere with the president's re-election campaign.

Forest, meet Tree.

the trick to not getting pulled in is to not draw attention to oneself. you know like making a movie thats deliberately designed to make a ruckus. using an alias in direct conflict with judges order is just stupid icing

and we seem to conveniently ignore the reality thats hes still free. one moght say he got preferential treatment. at least so far zomg!

more reality here don't open it you won't like it! http://reentrypolicy.org/Report/PartII/ChapterII-D/PolicyStatement25/ResearchHighlight25-1

roo_ster · « **Reply #70 on:** September 16, 2012, 02:23:14 PM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 16, 2012, 10:04:58 AM

why would the aclu intervene for a guy who pretty clearly violated his probation? hes lucky his po did't jugg him

Because if GWB were in office and some probationary got the hairy eyeball for producing something politically awkward for GWB & they started investigating him due to that, the ACLU would be hollering "selective enforcement" from the rooftops.

MicroBalrog · « **Reply #71 on:** September 16, 2012, 02:25:12 PM »

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It amuses that amongst folk so concerned about their own liberty and infringements upon it so many are so free with the liberty of others. For me but not for thee.

~~cassandra and sara's daddy, on another topic.

Ben · « **Reply #72 on:** September 16, 2012, 02:26:13 PM »

CSD, here's the consistent problem with your arguments in all threads similar to this:

There's a Zombie attack in your town. Everybody is heading for the hills, abandoning their cars on the downtown streets. You're the meter maid still downtown putting tickets on all the abandoned vehicles because they're illegally parked.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #73 on:** September 16, 2012, 06:01:41 PM »

Was that your way of addressing his blatant violation?
The fact that so far he has not been violated?
or the fact that contrary to the gestalts consensus hes not in some suspicious minority if he does get violated?

You can be violated for quitting your job, even if its to take a better one. I know a guy violated for marrying the women he'd lived with for 20 years and had 3 kids with. He needed permission. You can be free white and 21 and get violated for 1 sip of beer. They take extra time to explain the details. So far rather than showing arbitrary enforcement ,r meth with a side of bank fraud has gotten if anything especially lenient treatment.how that can be spun to make him a martyr is mysterious.

French G. · « **Reply #74 on:** September 16, 2012, 06:08:24 PM »

Well they only showed up as fast as they did to deport Obama's aunt.

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Author Topic: Questions Arise About Anti-Islam Filmmaker (Read 18033 times)