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Mitt Seems Confuddled
« on: September 19, 2012, 11:58:17 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-univision-campaign-100-percent-america-234334429--election.html

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MIAMI--Still in damage control mode over his "47 percent" remark captured by a hidden camera, Mitt Romney repeatedly insisted Wednesday that he is running to represent "100 percent" of America and that he has a record of being inclusive.

It's 100%, it's 53%, forget the 47%....what number is it really?

Over the last week or so, Romney seems to have proven numerous times that he is incapable of running a national campaign.

This latest foot-in-mouth episode, coupled with damage control, still sends a message of confusion, at best.

Looks like he has wasted a lot of money so far.....
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 12:06:52 AM »
Meanwhile no one cares that there's a video of Obama out there stating his belief in redistribution of wealth..... >:D
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 01:44:14 AM »
Meanwhile no one cares that there's a video of Obama out there stating his belief in redistribution of wealth..... >:D

You can't criticize anything Obama does or says, or you're a racist.  (you should know that by now) Obama could kill a *baby* and eat it on live TV and he would get a pass.

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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 01:54:54 AM »
I've listened to the audio from that so called "gotcha".
What I heard was that as a candidate in a primary race his job was to win over the potential supporters that didn't constitute the 47% that will for Obama no matter what.
As a candidate his job is to convince hornswaggle voters, represent 100% of Americans.

His damage control and spin attempts are made of Latinum plated suckage.
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 06:23:53 AM »
I think the media is driving the narrative and everyone getting all flummoxed about his bad campaign aren't taking that into account.

The scandal is the 47% of the folks who are going to vote to keep their gravy train running despite the long term consequences.    

Bunch of sheep.

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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2012, 06:30:59 AM »
Meanwhile no one cares that there's a video of Obama out there stating his belief in redistribution of wealth..... >:D

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Re: Mittens Seems Confuddled
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 07:43:33 AM »
I hope he doesn't backpedal on this.....it's the first time he's tried to win the conservative base since his campaign opened.....
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2012, 07:46:54 AM »
I think the media is driving the narrative and everyone getting all flummoxed about his bad campaign aren't taking that into account.

The scandal is the 47% of the folks who are going to vote to keep their gravy train running despite the long term consequences.    

Bunch of sheep.

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Sure, it is fixed. Still does not change the facts.
He still is tanking by not being able to run a national campaign.
The newest polls are hitting today, and he is loosing serious ground.
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2012, 07:51:50 AM »
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2012, 08:02:26 AM »
Yes, really.

Here is a Fox News poll that I saw on the news this morning:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/19/obama-has-edge-over-romney-in-three-battleground-states/

Here are more polls by state where Mitt is behind:
http://www.pollheadlines.com/

It is quite obvious that romney would be sitting much better if he was running a good national campaign.
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2012, 08:03:29 AM »
It is quite obvious that romney would be sitting much better if he was running a good national campaign.

Of course, so would obama.
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2012, 08:09:56 AM »
Yes, really.

Here is a Fox News poll that I saw on the news this morning:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/19/obama-has-edge-over-romney-in-three-battleground-states/

Here are more polls by state where Mitt is behind:
http://www.pollheadlines.com/

It is quite obvious that romney would be sitting much better if he was running a good national campaign.

Since I'm familiar with Virginia, sample in the Fox News poll: 38% D/ 33% R/ 26% I

It has Democrats with a +5 advantage in Virginia. Actual registrations in Virginia? +3 Republican.

Yeah... I'm worried about that poll. Notice the Independents are almost exactly even (41-42 or 43-43), yet SOMEHOW Obama ends up with a significant lead? Not buying that.
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2012, 08:11:57 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-univision-campaign-100-percent-america-234334429--election.html

It's 100%, it's 53%, forget the 47%....what number is it really?

Over the last week or so, Romney seems to have proven numerous times that he is incapable of running a national campaign.

This latest foot-in-mouth episode, coupled with damage control, still sends a message of confusion, at best.

Looks like he has wasted a lot of money so far.....

wth is the problem?  this is america, where all you need is a slight advantage to win.  so who needs the little guy?    =|  what an idiot.  every election i am amazed at how close the vote really is.  whoever wins likes to make a big deal about them getting the majority, but in the end they only win by a few percent or less.

The scandal is the 47% of the folks who are going to vote to keep their gravy train running despite the long term consequences.    

i haven't looked at the demographics, but i don't think that is the case.  around here the people getting the majority of public assistance could care less, and are likely not the ones to vote.  it seems that most of the voters just want to give their money away.

Meanwhile no one cares that there's a video of Obama out there stating his belief in redistribution of wealth..... >:D

at least he thinks he is talking to 99% of the people.
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2012, 08:15:42 AM »
Since I'm familiar with Virginia, sample in the Fox News poll: 38% D/ 33% R/ 26% I

It has Democrats with a +5 advantage in Virginia. Actual registrations in Virginia? +3 Republican.

Yeah... I'm worried about that poll. Notice the Independents are almost exactly even (41-42 or 43-43), yet SOMEHOW Obama ends up with a significant lead? Not buying that.

Most of the polling outfit seemto oversample dems throughout most of the campaign season and then get a litttle more realistic the last week or two to salvage some credibility. 
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2012, 08:27:07 AM »
honestly, i think being behind in the polls adds fervor to the campaign. 
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2012, 08:27:57 AM »
i haven't looked at the demographics, but i don't think that is the case.  around here the people getting the majority of public assistance could care less, and are likely not the ones to vote.  it seems that most of the voters just want to give their money away.

The "47%" that aren't paying Federal Income Tax aren't all on assistance.  I know at least one solidly middle-class (maybe "upper middle class" judging by the toys he buys, he has bikes that cost more than some folks' cars) who didn't pay Fed Income Tax a couple years ago (was bragging about it on Facebook).  He wasn't cheating, just using all of the available deductions and such to his advantage.  However, because didn't have to pay, he thinks we should all pay more.  Him not paying is evidence in his mind that the tax rates are too low.  That same year, I paid $14k in federal income taxes after itemizing deductions.  MY suggestion to write a check to the Treasury Dept rather than lobbying for higher taxes overall is rebuffed as inefficient.

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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2012, 08:50:43 AM »
Sure, it is fixed. Still does not change the facts.
He still is tanking by not being able to run a national campaign.
The newest polls are hitting today, and he is loosing serious ground.

Not by what I'm seeing.  The narrative the MSM is putting out just ain't true.  I think you'll see the polls getting closer to what  the vote (really the only poll that counts) will be the closer we get to election day.


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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2012, 09:14:44 AM »
Not to mention the desperation e-mails I'm getting 2-3 times per day from the Obama campaign.   I've got a feeling their internal polling shows them losing...
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2012, 09:16:06 AM »
I'm skeptical of polls in general (Didn't most polls have Mondale tied with Reagan until election night?) so I'm not going to get too excited when some pollster or analyst happens to put out something I happen like.

The bottom line is the only poll that counts is the one on election day, and in order to eke out a win, the Republican has to have enough of a margin to negate Democratic vote fraud. (Stuffed ballot boxes, hanging chads, etc., are the least of it.)
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2012, 09:26:52 AM »
All the whining about taxes from R's and D's, shows how much we need to scrap the present system and have a flat tax of 10% across the board.  Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period.  Everybody has a dog in the fight and there is no room for whining.
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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2012, 10:00:19 AM »
All the whining about taxes from R's and D's, shows how much we need to scrap the present system and have a flat tax of 10% across the board.  Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period.  Everybody has a dog in the fight and there is no room for whining.

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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2012, 10:09:04 AM »
All the whining about taxes from R's and D's, shows how much we need to scrap the present system and have a flat tax of 10% across the board.  Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period.  Everybody has a dog in the fight and there is no room for whining.

Run for office.  Please.

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Re: Mitt Seems Confuddled
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2012, 10:26:22 AM »
All the whining about taxes from R's and D's, shows how much we need to scrap the present system and have a flat tax of 10% across the board.  Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period.  Everybody has a dog in the fight and there is no room for whining.

Yeah, well way to go Grampster. You just took away 90% of what each candidate is campaigning for and/or against. They would then have to start debating about issues besides who gets free rides and who gets smacked with the tax burden. And what about those poor people at the IRS? What will they do? I have always said that if we have taxes, EVERYONE should have to pay taxes - even if it's only $100/yr. Skin in the game gives one a completely different perspective on things.

I know there is no workable way to do it (because good luck collecting), but I wish everyone would have to pay their taxes by sitting down and writing a check to the IRS, versus getting "X" dollars taken out of their paychecks and then "whoopee!!" getting some of it "refunded" at the end of the year. Too many of those people (and I am in the "taken out of my pay" crowd) simply have zero concept of their tax burden. If you're making $50K/yr and have to sit down on April 15th and write a check for $5000, I think you end up with a different perspective than if your employer deducts $7000 from your pay for taxes and the government gives you $2000 of it back. This is something the self-employed know all too well, four times per year.
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