Woman Shoots Home Invader

[HankB]

A Texas woman put her father's lessons in firearms use to work when two men invaded her home.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012/10/woman-shoots-burglary-suspect-during-break-in-at-home-in-southeast-oak-cliff.html/

I heard her father being interviewed on the radio this morning - he said he's glad his daughter came out OK and put the training he'd given her to good use, but he was a bit miffed that she didn't get both of the perps.  

[Perd Hapley]

Unpossible. People with guns in their homes are more likely to be shot, themselves. Since the black man was shot, there is probably undoubtedly racism at play here.

[Tallpine]

Looks like a pretty nice neighborhood to be "crime-ridden" 

[geronimotwo]

Unpossible. People with guns in their homes are more likely to be shot, themselves. Since the black man was shot, there is probably undoubtedly racism at play here.

perhaps he was the real homeowner?

[AJ Dual]

Looks like a pretty nice neighborhood to be "crime-ridden" 

I'll go out on a limb and opine there may be a Section 8 housing complex somewhere nearby.

[MechAg94]

The woman, alerted by a home alarm, fired several shots at the men, striking at least one of them as they charged up the stairs.

Judging by the way that is worded, this is was no "simple burglary".  The apparently saw the woman and charged up the stairs.  If it was just burglary, they would have taken off on seeing an armed occupant.  I guess that assumes the news story is worded correctly and accurate.  

[Perd Hapley]

I think it's possible they were running up the stairs, just trying to get the stuff and get out fast. Maybe they didn't see her. She might have been behind them or beside them as they came up.

[MrsSmith]

Unpossible. People with guns in their homes are more likely to be shot, themselves. Since the black man was shot, there is probably undoubtedly racism at play here.

Don't you mean "women" with guns in their homes are more likely to have their guns taken away from them and used on them???

 

[Perd Hapley]

Don't you mean "women" with guns in their homes are more likely to have their guns taken away from them and used on them???

Well, yeah, that's one factoid. I think another one I've heard a few times is that people with guns in their homes are more likely to be shot.

Yeah, here's a story that says that.
http://www.news-medical.net/news/20100204/Guns-in-homes-can-increase-risk-of-death-and-firearm-related-violence.aspx

Anyone know the story on statistics like that?

[Stand_watie]

Looks like a pretty nice neighborhood to be "crime-ridden" 

Oak Cliff is a subsection of Dallas that is very "crime ridden", but is so large that there are many nice neighborhoods within it.  Nice  neighborhoods just a block or two away from absolute 3rd world hellholes. So like most news cliches probably both "true" and "false".  I work about 5 miles northeast of that location and lived for a year about 1/2 mile due west of it.

[Tallpine]

Oak Cliff is a subsection of Dallas that is very "crime ridden", but is so large that there are many nice neighborhoods within it.  Nice  neighborhoods just a block or two away from absolute 3rd world hellholes. So like most news cliches probably both "true" and "false".  I work about 5 miles northeast of that location and lived for a year about 1/2 mile due west of it.

So basically anywhere with 100 miles of a major city is a crappy neighborhood 

[MechAg94]

I recall hearing stories in College Station that gangs would come out of Houston and drop members off in neighborhoods to go steal whatever they could.  I don't know how true or common that was.  That town is about 100 miles or so from Houston.

[Stetson]

My house is 26 miles ESE of that area.  The only reason to even go to that part of Dallas is the Farmers Market, or if you work in the area like Stand_Waite.  I looked at some houses in the 'nicer areas', it was still too close to 3rd world type areas.  One house was a great 5br, 4ba 3600sf place at an incredible price.  I walked around a bit and found out why.  Just one block over was some badly run down apartments.  I don't KNOW if they were section 8 or whatever but the hair on the back of my neck stood up as I got closer....

[HankB]

. . . I looked at some houses in the 'nicer areas', it was still too close to 3rd world type areas.  One house was a great 5br, 4ba 3600sf place at an incredible price.  I walked around a bit and found out why.  Just one block over was some badly run down apartments.  I don't KNOW if they were section 8 or whatever but the hair on the back of my neck stood up as I got closer....

Just about urban/suburban neighborhood is within easy driving distance of a bad area . . . but I'd hate to be within easy walking distance of the Red Zone.

[roo_ster]

As has been mentioned, Oak Cliff is mostly a pit with some nice neighborhoods in it.  Some have always been nice, some are being gentrified. 

If you want a larger buffer between the hood rats and regular people, you need to spend big bucks or go outside Dallas's city limits.

[Tallpine]

As has been mentioned, Oak Cliff is mostly a pit with some nice neighborhoods in it.  Some have always been nice, some are being gentrified. 

If you want a larger buffer between the hood rats and regular people, you need to spend big bucks or go outside Dallas's city limits.

The piney hills of Montana 

[gunsmith]

Well, yeah, that's one factoid. I think another one I've heard a few times is that people with guns in their homes are more likely to be shot.

Yeah, here's a story that says that.
http://www.news-medical.net/news/20100204/Guns-in-homes-can-increase-risk-of-death-and-firearm-related-violence.aspx

Anyone know the story on statistics like that?

iirc the now infamous Kellerman study claimed that "guns are bad" in the home.
http://guncite.com/gun-control-kellermann-3times.html

[Balog]

Well, yeah, that's one factoid. I think another one I've heard a few times is that people with guns in their homes are more likely to be shot.

Yeah, here's a story that says that.
http://www.news-medical.net/news/20100204/Guns-in-homes-can-increase-risk-of-death-and-firearm-related-violence.aspx

Anyone know the story on statistics like that?

You're more likely to accidentally shoot yourself if you own a gun than not, in much the same way that you're more likely to have a motorcycle accident if you ride one than if you don't. It's a stupid meaningless factoid that gets pimped like it's significant.

[Jamisjockey]

You're more likely to accidentally shoot yourself if you own a gun than not, in much the same way that you're more likely to have a motorcycle accident if you ride one than if you don't. It's a stupid meaningless factoid that gets pimped like it's significant.

This.  You're more likely to drown if you own a swimming pool. Etc etc.

[Matthew Carberry]

Also the "friends and associates" you are more likely to shoot/be shot by include criminal associates; and only killing your attacker counts, if the gun in your home is used to scare away or just wound the assailant it doesn't count.

Kellerman demands blood!

[erictank]

Well, yeah, that's one factoid. I think another one I've heard a few times is that people with guns in their homes are more likely to be shot.

Yeah, here's a story that says that.
http://www.news-medical.net/news/20100204/Guns-in-homes-can-increase-risk-of-death-and-firearm-related-violence.aspx

Anyone know the story on statistics like that?

Yeah - when you only count defensive firearms uses resulting in dead bad guys as successful DGUs, and count every misuse of any firearm in any house by anyone on the other side of the ledger, you get grossly-skewed "statistics".

Fortunately, we aren't as bloodthirsty as the victim-disarmament types, and are satisfied to simply stop the attack without necessarily killing the bad guy(s).

[RoadKingLarry]

Don't you mean "women" with guns in their homes are more likely to have their guns taken away from them and used on them???

 

 Happens all the time...

http://www.newson6.com/story/19858704/12-year-old-girl-shoots-intruder-during-home-invasion

 

[Strings]

>So basically anywhere with 100 miles of a major city is a crappy neighborhood<

Isn't that what you've been telling us all along, Tallpine?

[Tallpine]

>So basically anywhere with 100 miles of a major city is a crappy neighborhood<

Isn't that what you've been telling us all along, Tallpine?

And now you are all agreeing with me. 

[Perd Hapley]

And now you are all agreeing with me. 

Nope. I grew up in a rural area about 40 miles from Saint Louis. It's not a bad place to live at all. Far enough out that we had livestock for neighbors (and got fresh eggs), but close enough that we could visit a museum or have access to various specialty shops, or whatever. A number of good radio stations was the main, day-to-day benefit (one of my Dad's main forms of entertainment; it's as important to him as high-speed internet is to many people today). Franklin County is supposed to be some hive of meth operations these days. I've never come across it, myself. [shrug] Dad still leaves an ignition key in the floorboard of his vehicles.