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Patraeus resigns
« on: November 09, 2012, 03:21:43 PM »
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 03:23:48 PM »
I think I saw this in Godfather I...
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 03:43:00 PM »
I stated to my friend that I was hoping he was just keeping his mouth shut in hopes that Romney would get in and then he could spill the beans without destroying his career. I'm truly praying that with that option gone his resignation is just a prelude to exposing the entire Benghazi affair to the public.

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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 03:47:05 PM »
You think Petraeus wasn't made an offer he couldn't refuse?  And that suggests he'll remain silent.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 03:58:51 PM »
Maybe he just doesn't want to work for that man another 4 years.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 04:24:01 PM »
My Christian wife with a civil tongue has been saying a lot of bad words since the election, she just walked through the room shouting B,,, S,,, when she heard it the announcement on the radio. She doesn't believe for a minute that it doesn't have something to do with the Benghazi mess. She's saying really bad words about anybody associated with the Obama admin.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 04:27:07 PM »
That brings tears to my eyes
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 05:35:13 PM »
Maybe he just doesn't want to work for that man another 4 years.

So rather than just resigning he resigns in disgrace.  Uh-huh, I get it.

He took the better of the two bad courses is my guess.  The other was to sit in a bathtub and open his veins...
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2012, 12:17:24 AM »
So rather than just resigning he resigns in disgrace.  Uh-huh, I get it.

He took the better of the two bad courses is my guess.  The other was to sit in a bathtub and open his veins...

I wouldn't be surprised to hear of a previously undiagnosed heart condition suddenly becoming a problem [tinfoil]
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2012, 12:23:44 AM »
Petraeus didn't just resign, he resigned with a letter that, to this observer, reads as if someone were standing at his shoulder.  There is a time for saying less rather than more, and this was one of those times.  This was an Oprah moment, not a Petraeus moment, and I think we can surmise who directed this scene.

Another thing: why was the FBI investigating Petraeus?  Because he might have been having an offer?  Is this normal procedure?
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2012, 12:27:14 AM »
Is it possible that Petraeus was in some way responsible for the Benghazi failure, and this is the best out he could get?
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2012, 07:22:42 AM »
Possible sure, but I doubt it.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2012, 07:26:03 AM »
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15054517-cia-director-david-petraeus-resigns-cites-extramarital-affair?lite

Can you say BlackMail?

Yeah...

My SWAG on how it went down:

Someone close to Obama, maybe Valerie Jerett?:  You need to keep this [Benghazi screwup] secret.

Petraeus: To hell with that!

SCTOMVJ: If you don't we'll leak your affair.

Petraeus: *expletive deleted* YOU! I'll do it my own self, then spill the beans!

SCTOMVJ: *soils self*



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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2012, 07:58:52 AM »
Or the affair is simply an excuse to get him out of the seat for a reason other than Benghazi.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2012, 09:28:59 AM »
I have a very good friend who has a number of associates who have worked closely with Gen. Petraeus in the past.  I will 2nd what Regolith said.  Not a necessarily a SWAG, actually maybe a fact.

Gen Petraeus is a human and capable of bad judgment as are we all.  However, that does not mean he is defined in toto by his bad judgment with respect to an affair.  You can bet your bottom dollar that Jarrett has the goods regarding skeletons in the closet on every Obama appointee.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2012, 09:38:05 AM »
I worked for Petraeus and he is the smartest man I ever knew in uniform.  He also had a deep sense of honor and always tried to stay the straight and narrow.  I think the fact that he betrayed his wife literally ate at his soul.  He is that kind of man. 

Occam's Razor:  Once found out via the FBI, he felt a personal obligation to lay down his sword because he could no longer lead as a compromised man at the agency.  Eisenhower did it and felt no remorse because that is who he was but he did not have the high degree of personal honor I always observed in GEN P.

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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2012, 09:40:24 AM »
A respected intelligence officer (military) has speculated that the Obama folks have known about this affair for some time and just held it in their pocket to use for just such an opportunity. Obviously, the timing is more than just a little coincidental.

I buy that assessment, but (being a guy who has never met a conspiracy theory I didn't like), I propose that the general was set up. Suppose this biographer was a plant from the outset? She didn't write the book -- she had a co-writer, whose name is on the cover. Usually, when a VIP "writes" a bio he/she is listed as the author, and the ghost writer may or may not even be acknowledged. If this woman were a real writer, why did she need a co-author?

My guess is that she was a plant ... in just the way the Russians perennially try to get sexy females to sleep with our diplomatic (and intelligence) people both over there and at home. Being a classic military straight arrow, Petraeus fell for it hook, line, and sinker. So now he's sunk.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2012, 10:00:02 AM »
I'm truly praying that with that option gone his resignation is just a prelude to exposing the entire Benghazi affair to the public.

What would he be waiting for? Why not do that right away?
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2012, 10:11:09 AM »
Or the affair is simply an excuse to get him out of the seat for a reason other than Benghazi.

I'd go with this, plus they probably have something worse on him, or have threatened worse (mysteriously undiagnosed long-standing heart or brain conditions), if he opens his mouth. I suspect he rather cheesed off Obama and his puppet master Jarrett when he didn't hurl himself under the bus on cue (Obama: It's the CIA's fault!  Petraeus: Like hell it is!)

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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2012, 11:28:50 AM »

My guess is that she was a plant ... in just the way the Russians perennially try to get sexy females to sleep with our diplomatic (and intelligence) people both over there and at home. Being a classic military straight arrow, Petraeus fell for it hook, line, and sinker. So now he's sunk.

This....heard an interview clip on the radio just now....she admitted manipulating the situation so she could get info from him. IMHO, that's a confession of espionage and should be treated as such....
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2012, 12:21:20 PM »
I wonder if simply resigning will really keep him from having to testify. Story

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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2012, 12:59:11 PM »
These things are not turned into circuses unless "someone" wants a public circus.   Resignation is one thing, resignation with humiliation is quite another.  This was a purge.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2012, 12:59:31 PM »
This....heard an interview clip on the radio just now....she admitted manipulating the situation so she could get info from him. IMHO, that's a confession of espionage and should be treated as such....

Paula Broadwell was his biographer. And the FBI was investigating the situation because someone made allegations that she had access to his email. So, her job was getting information from him. But his responsibility was not giving her any classified information.

You could argue who he slept with was his own business, unless his partner was an espionage agent or whatnot. This would be borderline espionage, at the moment. More details will becoming out.


My guess is that she was a plant ... in just the way the Russians perennially try to get sexy females to sleep with our diplomatic (and intelligence) people both over there and at home. Being a classic military straight arrow, Petraeus fell for it hook, line, and sinker. So now he's sunk.

Mrs Broadwell is a US Army officer, a Major in the Reserves, and a journalist.

I'm not entirely sure, but I highly suspect she could face trial as a military officer for illegally accessing classified material in furtherance of her journalist career. That has occurred before. I'm aware of an officer that was hoarding TS documents on private computer. He had legitimate access to those files, but not for private archive. Under interrogation he admitted he was planning on writing a book. His defense was swearing that he did not intend on revealing anything classified. He was convicted of mishandling classified documents.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2012, 02:11:18 PM »
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My guess is that she was a plant ... in just the way the Russians perennially try to get sexy females to sleep with our diplomatic (and intelligence) people both over there and at home. Being a classic military straight arrow, Petraeus fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

Was she naked and articulate ?   =|
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