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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2012, 02:25:18 PM »
My boss brought this one up today
(i think since her daughters ban on talking politics in the workplace, Louise has been going a bit bonkers since tuesday. Katie left early yesterday and isn't going to be in all weekend. So Louise has been going nonstop since yesterday. She has to get her political ranting out of her system while she can.)

I belive she also used the term "B-S" as well as her go to "Their all full of S-".
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2012, 02:46:54 PM »
Mrs Broadwell is a US Army officer, a Major in the Reserves, and a journalist.

I heard on the Nooz, she was recently promoted to LtC.  [tinfoil]
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2012, 03:48:08 PM »
Mrs Broadwell is a US Army officer, a Major in the Reserves, and a journalist.

I'm not entirely sure, but I highly suspect she could face trial as a military officer for illegally accessing classified material in furtherance of her journalist career.

She could also face a court martial for adultery. That's still against the rules under the UCMJ, I believe.

Or does it only count if she wears her uniform while seducing the victim?
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2012, 03:54:11 PM »
She could also face a court martial for adultery. That's still against the rules under the UCMJ, I believe.

Or does it only count if she wears her uniform while seducing the victim?

I think it only counts if you're enlisted or not politically connected.   =|

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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2012, 06:45:59 PM »
No one seriously believes he was cashiered for infidelity, do they?  I mean, c'mon.  And who says he gave her classified information or would have?  Is there any reason to believe that?

The fact is, he could have resigned, as most do, for "personal reasons."  No, they chose to force him into humiliation and disgrace. 
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2012, 07:02:41 PM »
No one seriously believes he was cashiered for infidelity, do they?  I mean, c'mon.  And who says he gave her classified information or would have?  Is there any reason to believe that?

The fact is, he could have resigned, as most do, for "personal reasons."  No, they chose to force him into humiliation and disgrace. 

Well, you are going to have to make it a bit clearer for me...
If he has info about Benghazi, then why not get him out quietly?
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2012, 09:39:37 PM »
Well, you are going to have to make it a bit clearer for me...
If he has info about Benghazi, then why not get him out quietly?

Pour encourager les autres.

Not saying that is what happened in this case. However, that could be a reason to very publicly humiliate this man. Fits with Chicago politics, too.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2012, 12:14:05 AM »
Damage his credibility by forcing public a story about an affair, and then nobody will believe what he has to say.

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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2012, 12:37:55 AM »
Don't worry, Longeyes, there's always a chance he will "kill himself in shame" in the future...maybe he'll even do it in the Fort Marcey Park?



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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2012, 01:00:32 AM »
Patraeus doesn't matter. A full investigation will be launched. George Bush will be the culprit.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2012, 09:59:45 AM »
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Damage his credibility by forcing public a story about an affair, and then nobody will believe what he has to say.

I think monkeyleg is onto something.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2012, 05:08:41 PM »
That is exactly what I meant: resignation, discrete, is one thing; public humiliation another.  This is no by-the-book resignation in the face of scandal.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2012, 05:51:58 PM »
you fellers following the story at all?
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2012, 08:36:32 PM »
That is exactly what I meant: resignation, discrete, is one thing; public humiliation another.  This is no by-the-book resignation in the face of scandal.

Actually, it is. FBI is tipped off that someone may have unauthorized access to classified information. FBI investigates, and finds evidence that the Director of the CIA is nailing that someone. Yea, that is generally not good. If they're high enough up the foodchain, they resign and don't face charges. If they're not high enough up the foodchain, they face charges.

I believe Mr Patraeus voluntarily admitted the affair was his reason? And the whole FBI part?
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2012, 09:12:44 PM »
Benghazi, Benschmazi.  Petreus was kept on in the service and given the CIA to keep him out of electoral politics and the 2012 election.

Now that 2012 is past, it is time to spin him off and hopefully destroy him as a threat in 2016.  If they can smear his testimony n Benghazi, so much the better.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2012, 10:56:25 PM »
Actually, it is. FBI is tipped off that someone may have unauthorized access to classified information. FBI investigates, and finds evidence that the Director of the CIA is nailing that someone. Yea, that is generally not good. If they're high enough up the foodchain, they resign and don't face charges. If they're not high enough up the foodchain, they face charges.

I believe Mr Patraeus voluntarily admitted the affair was his reason? And the whole FBI part?

Okay what was the classified information that Broadwell had access to...?

So every politician with a security clearance should have to resign if he has an affair, that what you are saying?  That would be a long line, I think, if all were to come to light.

The issue, again, is not the resignation, it is the manner of it.  Not kosher.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2012, 10:57:28 PM »
Benghazi, Benschmazi.  Petreus was kept on in the service and given the CIA to keep him out of electoral politics and the 2012 election.

Now that 2012 is past, it is time to spin him off and hopefully destroy him as a threat in 2016.  If they can smear his testimony n Benghazi, so much the better.

And this.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2012, 11:26:36 PM »
Benghazi, Benschmazi.  Petreus was kept on in the service and given the CIA to keep him out of electoral politics and the 2012 election.

Now that 2012 is past, it is time to spin him off and hopefully destroy him as a threat in 2016.  If they can smear his testimony n Benghazi, so much the better.

Pretty much my take.  He is bumped out and the government still has the goods on him.  Afterall, they do control his pension.  He won't say much even if they sopena him.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2012, 09:48:35 AM »
roo_ster has it right.  Petraeus was an electoral danger.  He's served his time and now assuming his proper location under the bus.  Problem is, his is in a better position to cause more damage to Obama et al than if he was DCIA.  Is his career over?  Not hardly.  He'll pull down $75,000 to $100,000 per speech.  He's only begun to make money, which is the precursor to running for political office. 

Petraeus is Obama's worst nightmare.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2012, 10:05:08 AM »
roo_ster has it right.  Petraeus was an electoral danger.  He's served his time and now assuming his proper location under the bus.  Problem is, his is in a better position to cause more damage to Obama et al than if he was DCIA.  Is his career over?  Not hardly.  He'll pull down $75,000 to $100,000 per speech.  He's only begun to make money, which is the precursor to running for political office. 

Petraeus is Obama's worst nightmare.

And that's why it appears they're trying so hard to destroy his credibility in the media. "You can't trust what he says about what we did in Benghazi, just look, he's an adulterer!!! Shaaaaame! Shaaaaaame! Shun the heretic!"

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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2012, 10:27:32 AM »
And that's why it appears they're trying so hard to destroy his credibility in the media. "You can't trust what he says about what we did in Benghazi, just look, he's an adulterer!!! Shaaaaame! Shaaaaaame! Shun the heretic!"

Not so oddly, I just clicked a MSM article on the topic and the photo caption included, "The shamed former General..."

Never saw such during the Clinton fiasco or after in the MSM.  Certainly not while he was stumping for BHO.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2012, 10:30:27 AM »
The varied reports coming out now are getting rather bizarre. His wife knew about the affair. A close family friend is who contacted the FBI. A whistleblower started the investigation. Broadwell told reporters about prisoners in the CIA Annex, which may, or may not, have been classified information. Just to name a few.

It looks to me like a big bowl of information, misinformation, and targeted misinformation from all sides. I think it's going to take a while to separate the wheat from the chaff.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2012, 11:08:57 AM »
Chaff is a very kind term for what we are swimming in here.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2012, 12:33:32 PM »
Wow. I'm on another board where several of the people think Petraeus should get a complete and total pass and be reinstated because "He wouldn't have betrayed the United States," and "The media is making this into something that it's not."

What *expletive deleted*ing idiots.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2012, 01:44:40 PM »
Petraeus is just a minor figure in Obama's HAMLET.  But something is rotten in alll of Denmark.
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