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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2012, 06:16:23 PM »
Wasn't Patraeus singing the same tune about a video being the cause of the embassy attack? 

What a way to end a career, dishonorable *expletive deleted*ck.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2012, 07:02:07 PM »
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2012, 10:30:23 PM »
Yeah, Petraeus came out with the film excuse.  Not long after that CIA came out with an uncharacteristically blunt statement saying reports the CIA denied help was false.  That one statement caused me to whip around because I sensed trouble amongst the spooks.  I suspect Obama et al had the lowdown on Petraeus' activities for a good while and kept it on the back burner just in case they needed to muscle him.  I suspect Petraeus began to push back after is became clear CIA would be blamed for an intelligence failure.  Obama being the thug he is confronted Petraeus telling him he will be under the bus.  Petraeus countered by resigning.

I also suspect Petraeus has top flight legal help.  He's not the kind of guy to give in to thuggery unless someone has a gun to his loved one's head.  In any case he would well become the front man for opposition to Obama.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #53 on: November 12, 2012, 11:38:57 PM »
One word comes to mind: PURGE.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2012, 11:42:03 PM »
One word comes to mind: PURGE.

Political bulimia? Binge and purge...
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2012, 10:56:41 AM »
It is time to re- read I, Claudius.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2012, 03:17:38 PM »

So, about that whole 9/11 fiasco . . .

The president . . . what was he doing again?
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2012, 05:59:38 PM »
Watching it live and direct as it unfolded.   :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2012, 06:56:04 PM »
Fwiw: the thousands of emails were probably text/chat messages. Gmail counts them as emails.

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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2012, 07:08:42 PM »
I forget if it was Wired or Gizmodo that reported today that Patraeus and Broadwell were actually writing emails to each other and putting them in the drafts folder of a shared account. Rather than send emails back and forth, each would login to the account at different times and read and respond to each other in strictly in the drafts folder.

 I suppose it would eliminate the chance for interception of sent mail, but the drafts folder has to be sitting on a server somewhere that .gov could likely access one way or another.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2012, 07:47:59 PM »
I forget if it was Wired or Gizmodo that reported today that Patraeus and Broadwell were actually writing emails to each other and putting them in the drafts folder of a shared account. Rather than send emails back and forth, each would login to the account at different times and read and respond to each other in strictly in the drafts folder.

 I suppose it would eliminate the chance for interception of sent mail, but the drafts folder has to be sitting on a server somewhere that .gov could likely access one way or another.

I saw that technique in the movie "Traitor".

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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2012, 07:52:56 PM »
I suppose it would eliminate the chance for interception of sent mail, but the drafts folder has to be sitting on a server somewhere that .gov could likely access one way or another.

Which, in fact, the Alphabet Boys did.

This just gets dumber and dumber. Article on Military.com http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/11/13/petraeus-affair-could-end-broadwells-army-career.html?ESRC=army.nl

Broadwell supposedly has a Top Secret security clearance. Now, I admit it has been awhile since I was in, and I only had Secret, not Top Secret, but I don't think the rules have changed that much: regardless of your level of clearance, it doesn't give you carte blanche access to everything at that level of security. ALL classified information is (or so I believed) on a "need to know" basis. If you don't need it -- you don't read it, and I don't care a fig what your clearance is.

So check this out:

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During an appearance in July at the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado, Broadwell said she had a Top Secret clearance and routinely had access to high-level briefings with Petraeus and other Army and intelligence officials while in Afghanistan.

"I was entrusted with this opportunity to sit in on high level meetings with General Petraeus,” she said. “Sitting in on SCIF [sensitive compartmented information facility] meetings in the morning, listen to classified chatter of terrorist talk and so forth.”

Mind you, she wasn't even there as a military officer -- she was there as a civilian, researching a book. I don't care how many stars Petraeus had, if he gave this broad access to classified briefings, he was acting WAY beyond any authority he had.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2012, 09:48:27 PM »

Broadwell supposedly has a Top Secret security clearance. Now, I admit it has been awhile since I was in, and I only had Secret, not Top Secret, but I don't think the rules have changed that much: regardless of your level of clearance, it doesn't give you carte blanche access to everything at that level of security. ALL classified information is (or so I believed) on a "need to know" basis. If you don't need it -- you don't read it, and I don't care a fig what your cleasrance is.\

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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2012, 10:22:18 PM »
Yeah, Petraeus came out with the film excuse.  Not long after that CIA came out with an uncharacteristically blunt statement saying reports the CIA denied help was false.  That one statement caused me to whip around because I sensed trouble amongst the spooks.  I suspect Obama et al had the lowdown on Petraeus' activities for a good while and kept it on the back burner just in case they needed to muscle him.  I suspect Petraeus began to push back after is became clear CIA would be blamed for an intelligence failure.  Obama being the thug he is confronted Petraeus telling him he will be under the bus.  Petraeus countered by resigning.

I also suspect Petraeus has top flight legal help.  He's not the kind of guy to give in to thuggery unless someone has a gun to his loved one's head.  In any case he would well become the front man for opposition to Obama.

To the detriment of the Liberty movement in 2016.

1. Make the Benghazi issue another birther/contrail/9-11-was-an-inside-job issue.
2. Carefully nurse it for 3 more years, have it take irrelevant limelight in 2015.
3. Use this as the rabblerabblerabble talking point to drown out the next up-and-coming libertarian threat to both parties.  Who needs balanced budgets, fed reserve audits, austrian economics, or reduced imperial interventionism when we can have a new left wing anti-Bush to blame for 4 or 8 years instead?  "Our mideast foreign policy?  That's Obama's fault!1!1!eleventyone!"


The last thing we need is a GOP warbird driving discourse for the next 3+ years.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2012, 10:36:45 PM »
Whatever happened to The Stern Roman?  Geez Louise.
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Re: Patraeus resigns
« Reply #65 on: November 14, 2012, 11:32:34 AM »
Obama auroral musings:  Discredit the military...might blunt future antidote of a military protectorate...thinking ahead...
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