$deity save us from the GOP

[AZRedhawk44]

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/18/rubio-makes-his-iowa-debut-as-possible-future-of-the-republican-party/

I don't remember which of the numerous recent post-election threads here we posited this in, but there was much lamenting and gnashing of teeth and rending of garments due to the probable options in 2016 for POTUS.  Jindal, Rubio, Jeb Bush and the other "Hispanic-courting" elements of the GOP.

This is the RNC trying to put the kaibash on grass roots activism, plain and simple.

One week after the election, though?  Wow.  4 more years of campaigning.  Ugh.

I'm wondering when the election cycle will actually begin prior to the preceding election.  When that happens, will it form a singularity and suck Mordor on the Potomac into itself?  Kind of like Chris Christie eating himself starting at the belly button?  One can hope.

[longeyes]

2016 is on other side of a very, very deep chasm that not even illegal aliens can get across.  It is not going to be business as usual from here to there.

These GOP masterminds are dreaming if they think the answer to America's woes is to go Latin.  We are where we are today in no small part because of letting our borders go unguarded.  It's not just the latinos who are here taking jobs and welfare, it's the blacks they've displaced and made lifetime welfare recipients, the unions that have used illegals to puff themselves up, and the white middle-class that works for the welfare empire.

We are slowly but surely setting up a plantation system in the United States and the GOP hierarchs plan to be in the padron class.

It is all sadly laughable.

The ugly reality of all of it is this: We are their bitches.  Until we understand that and start to say no way, it is all just a joke--on us.

The United States has become a movie with a bad script, bad director, and bad actors that a lot of us are ready to get up and leave, demanding our money back. 

[SADShooter]

2016 is on other side of a very, very deep chasm that not even illegal aliens can get across.  It is not going to be business as usual from here to there.

These GOP masterminds are dreaming if they think the answer to America's woes is to go Latin.  We are where we are today in no small part because of letting our borders go unguarded.  It's not just the latinos who are here taking jobs and welfare, it's the blacks they've displaced and made lifetime welfare recipients, the unions that have used illegals to puff themselves up, and the white middle-class that works for the welfare empire.

We are slowly but surely setting up a plantation system in the United States and the GOP hierarchs plan to be in the padron class.

It is all sadly laughable.

The ugly reality of all of it is this: We are their bitches.  Until we understand that and start to say no way, it is all just a joke--on us.

The United States has become a movie with a bad script, bad director, and bad actors that a lot of us are ready to get up and leave, demanding our money back. 

Incredibly apt, except you forgot the armed guards waiting at the exits, ready to herd us back to our seats so we may cry through the credits and outtakes.

[seeker_two]

I just think it's funny that the GOP thinks that it has a future....

[TommyGunn]

Right, it's all over, let's pack it up and go home.  Move along, nothing to see here .....



 

[longeyes]

The GOP may not have a future, but that's their fault, not the failing of the core principles they have purported to support.

We need a true populist movement centered on those same principles, and that is just beginning even as the GOP is nearing its end.

[Scout26]

The whole problem I have with the Illegal Immigration problem is that we had Amnesty in the mid-80's.  The fed.gov was supposed to fix the problem so that we would not have to do it again.

That's the problem I have with "Comprehensive Immigration Reform", is that it's "Amnesty only", but still won't correct the illegal immigration problem. 

[Hawkmoon]

What we need is a viable third party, but I don't see any way for that to become reality.

My wife is from another country (here legally, thank you), and we were there visiting a few years ago during the run-up to their presidential election. I don't recall specifics but there were something like six genuine parties and candidates involved. The election itself was two stages -- the first stage eliminated all but two or three top vote-getters, then there was another month or six weeks of campaigning and coalition forming, followed by the final election.

I found myself wishing we had something like that here ...

[longeyes]

The whole problem I have with the Illegal Immigration problem is that we had Amnesty in the mid-80's.  The fed.gov was supposed to fix the problem so that we would not have to do it again.

That's the problem I have with "Comprehensive Immigration Reform", is that it's "Amnesty only", but still won't correct the illegal immigration problem. 

Neither party can get off script.  They don't want to touch birthright citizenship or chain migration/family reunification, both of which need to be eliminated.  They refuse to make real cuts or restrictions in the welfare state, especially as it applies to immigrants both legal and illegal.  As it is, it is not about a pathway to citizenship, it is really about a) a pathway to citizenship irrelevancy and b) a pathway to utter national insolvency.

The open borders constituencies, in both parties, control this debate, and it is going to take a lot of work, and some raw talk, to get through the flapdoodle.

[longeyes]

The Republican Party, let it be said, is for all intents and purposes a liberal party.  It does not disagree in principle with most of the Progressive principles; it just makes sure that its friends at the top get a nice share of the spoils.

[AZRedhawk44]

This is what happens when you try and ignore the Ron Paul movement...


Romney in La Jolla, CA...



 

[lee n. field]

This is what happens when you try and ignore the Ron Paul movement...

Yup.  And as I recall, ---Limbaugh-ism deleted--- Al Gore larded up, and grew a goatee after his failed election.

http://www.dailypaul.com

I had no idea that site existed.  Bookmark.

[longeyes]

He looks the way I feel.

[AZRedhawk44]

He looks the way I feel.

You feel like Bruce Campbell after getting an arsewhooping from the Army of Darkness?   

[Perd Hapley]

You feel like Bruce Campbell after getting an arsewhooping from the Army of Darkness?   

Racist. 

[longeyes]

Wait for the Mitt Romney, Mormon Hitman thriller series, available on Kindle.

[MechAg94]

This is what happens when you try and ignore the Ron Paul movement...


 

Not just the Ron Paul movement.  A lot of Tea Party voters felt ignored by the Republican Establishment.  When you fail to listen to your own grass roots, you are doomed to fail.  The democrat do a very good job of at least paying lip service to their various grass roots movements.  It doesn't say much for the political skills of the Replublican Establishment that they would try to ignore or avoid theirs.

[makattak]

Not just the Ron Paul movement.  A lot of Tea Party voters felt ignored by the Republican Establishment.  When you fail to listen to your own grass roots, you are doomed to fail.  The democrat do a very good job of at least paying lip service to their various grass roots movements.  It doesn't say much for the political skills of the Replublican Establishment that they would try to ignore or avoid theirs.

The Republican establishment is ashamed of their base. It makes them unpopular at parties and with the press.

[Balog]

The Republican establishment is ashamed of their base. It makes them unpopular at parties and with the press.

Ayup.

[brimic]

Why is it that this:

Reminds me of this:

[ArfinGreebly]

Are we going to pretend that the vote fraud was simply not a factor?

[Balog]

Are we going to pretend that the vote fraud was simply not a factor?

I haven't seen any indication that it decisively tipped the scales in any/enough key states to have made much of a difference.

[Strings]

Have seen it stated elsewhere that voter fraud wasn't enough to effect the national elections, but may have been a factor in some state and local races...

[Fitz]

When voter fraud is blamed, it's usually just people not wanting to admit one of three things:

1) their candidate was *expletive deleted*it

2)the American people are stupid

3) both 1 and 2

[MillCreek]

When voter fraud is blamed, it's usually just people not wanting to admit one of three things:

1) their candidate was *expletive deleted*

2)the American people are stupid

3) both 1 and 2

4) And besides, the Repub hierarchy said that if we just had those pesky minorities and young people show photo ID when voting, all those fraud problems would be solved.