Bradley Manning whines about being kept in a "cage."

[Perd Hapley]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/i-thought-i-was-going-to-die-in-that-cage-says-bradley-manning-8369357.html

   Yeah, we keep traitors in cages now, instead of immediately shooting them. Sorry if you'd prefer the old-fashioned way, Brad.

[vaskidmark]

Butt ....  But....  But ....

What did he expect - to be treated like some sort of hero?

stay safe.

[RoadKingLarry]

While I don't doubt the guy probably deserves a noose for treason something about the whole deal doesn't pass the smell test for me.

[AJ Dual]

I guess being am NFL quarterback isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[wmenorr67]

Truth be known the little ---- ------ is lucky he is in solitary.  If he was put in general pop he would probably already be dead or worse.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Truth be known the little ---- ------ is lucky he is in solitary.  If he was put in general pop he would probably already be dead or worse.

yup
he wouldn't make it in gen pop unless it was a country club white collar joint.  maybe a work release camp. even there he'd need a food taster

[Northwoods]

yup
he wouldn't make it in gen pop unless it was a country club white collar joint.  maybe a work release camp. even there he'd need a food taster

They were both poisoned.  I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocain powder.

[kgbsquirrel]

They were both poisoned.  I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocain powder.

Ahaha, hah, hahaha, aha--

[Sergeant Bob]

I guess being am NFL quarterback isn't all it's cracked up to be.

I'm thinking you're talking about the wrong Manning? 

[gunsmith]

He's a big hero according to a cross dressing Trotskyist I know.
A cause célèbre for a lot of the lefty/radlib fringe.

I like using him to goad my somewhat informed liberal friends, they always feel guilty about him and Anwar Alwacki  .

I get to point it out to them "see, see, your side is a bad as Bush!1!1"

When in reality I don't care...

[AmbulanceDriver]

While I don't doubt the guy probably deserves a noose for treason something about the whole deal doesn't pass the smell test for me.

Personally, I think his whole court martial needs to go something like this:

Court: Mr. Manning, did you release classified information to Wikileaks and/or Julian Assange?

Scumbag:  Yes.

Court:  The Court finds you guilty of treason.  You are sentenced to hang by the neck until dead.  Sentence to be carried out forthwith.  May God have mercy on your soul.

[SADShooter]

Personally, I think his whole court martial needs to go something like this:

Court: Mr. Manning, did you release classified information to Wikileaks and/or Julian Assange?

Scumbag:  Yes.

Court:  The Court finds you guilty of treason.  You are sentenced to hang by the neck until dead.  Sentence to be carried out forthwith.  May God have mercy on your soul.

"I'm strangely comfortable with it."

[AJ Dual]

I'm thinking you're talking about the wrong Manning? 

 

[RevDisk]

He's a big hero according to a cross dressing Trotskyist I know.
A cause célèbre for a lot of the lefty/radlib fringe.

I like using him to goad my somewhat informed liberal friends, they always feel guilty about him and Anwar Alwacki  .

I get to point it out to them "see, see, your side is a bad as Bush!1!1"

When in reality I don't care...

Section 9, Article One, US Constitution.
"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, nor any law impairing the obligation of contracts, shall ever be passed, and no conviction shall work corruption of blood or forfeiture of estate."

Anyone involved in government sponsored executive of US citizens, especially minors with no known or even suspected terrorist activities, should be sentenced in a court. We can and should firmly retaliate when any other foreign country does this. We should not allow it by our current administration. The Obama Administration's position was that corruption of blood (executive bill of attainder) was sufficient burden of proof to execute any US citizen, Abdulrahman al-Aulaqi in specific, without due process.

[De Selby]

Section 9, Article One, US Constitution.
"No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, nor any law impairing the obligation of contracts, shall ever be passed, and no conviction shall work corruption of blood or forfeiture of estate."

Anyone involved in government sponsored executive of US citizens, especially minors with no known or even suspected terrorist activities, should be sentenced in a court. We can and should firmly retaliate when any other foreign country does this. We should not allow it by our current administration. The Obama Administration's position was that corruption of blood (executive bill of attainder) was sufficient burden of proof to execute any US citizen, Abdulrahman al-Aulaqi in specific, without due process.

That is a very good take on what happened to Awlaki - although it's not a popular one here. 

[Jamisjockey]

That is a very good take on what happened to Awlaki - although it's not a popular one here. 

Huh. I've seen the governments kill program questioned on numerous times on this board. 

[De Selby]

Huh. I've seen the governments kill program questioned on numerous times on this board. 

And look at how those questions get addressed. 

[Scout26]

I haven't seen too many (meaning none) people here cheering about Obama's personal hit list.

[De Selby]

I haven't seen too many (meaning none) people here cheering about Obama's personal hit list.

It's definitely not everyone, but there is always a substantial contingent explaining why we need the kill list on those threads.

[RevDisk]

I haven't seen too many (meaning none) people here cheering about Obama's personal hit list.

Saw plenty of them during the Bush years. Nice thing about a Democrat in the White House, Republicans tend to pretend to be Republicans.

[AZRedhawk44]

Just remember, THIS is what Bradley Manning released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=is9sxRfU-ik

Two journalists and a dozen individuals walking on the street, including a child.  Empty accusations about RPG's and AK's that aren't true if you watch the video.

Real classy behavior at 8:30.  Definitely worth protecting.



ETA:  The only difference between Bradley Manning doing this to the Army in time of war, and one of us doing this to the FBI/DHS/BigCityPD, is unstoppable policy creep as the police state continues to grow.  Another 10-20 years and acts like this will be acceptable in the US.

It's interesting how many people haven't seen the material in question.  Please watch.

[makattak]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/taliban_seeks_vengeance_on_afghans_cy9V6VfsOcOW3982DAC44O

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7917955/Wikileaks-Afghanistan-Taliban-hunting-down-informants.html

He also released the names of people working with the US. Yeah, that's definitely worth defending him for, isn't it?

[roo_ster]

Just remember, THIS is what Bradley Manning released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=is9sxRfU-ik

Two journalists and a dozen individuals walking on the street, including a child.  Empty accusations about RPG's and AK's that aren't true if you watch the video.

Real classy behavior at 8:30.  Definitely worth protecting.



ETA:  The only difference between Bradley Manning doing this to the Army in time of war, and one of us doing this to the FBI/DHS/BigCityPD, is unstoppable policy creep as the police state continues to grow.  Another 10-20 years and acts like this will be acceptable in the US.

It's interesting how many people haven't seen the material in question.  Please watch.

I recall when that video came out and your propositions were unsupported.  I have no problems with shooting the hell out of insurgents and those who are so foolish as to associate with them.

I am not so OK with killing American citizens willy-nilly.

[AZRedhawk44]

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/wikileaks_accidentally_publishes_informants_names_20110829/

That was accidental.

The vast majority of what was leaked in previous releases had redacted names.

Manning wasn't the redactor... it was people in the Wikileaks organization doing the redacting.  It was a failure of teamwork on the parts of the leakers.  

Manning screwed up, yes.  I suggest tempering your disgust at the man in context of the information he was trying to get out.

[AZRedhawk44]

I recall when that video came out and your propositions were unsupported.  I have no problems with shooting the hell out of insurgents and those who are so foolish as to associate with them.

I am not so OK with killing American citizens willy-nilly.

Two journalists and a little girl, and the US government tried to cover it up and gloss it over.