Author Topic: Firearms Nomenclature (Read 6466 times)

kgbsquirrel · « **on:** January 11, 2013, 05:04:59 AM »

In relation to my rant about mislabeling firearms in another thread, I've been trying to come up with a Firearms Nomenclature for ~~Dummies~~ Reporters. Anyone got any corrections to contribute to it?

vaskidmark · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2013, 06:53:34 AM »

Way too technical. Biggest drawback is it needs an on-site expert to define the terms across the top.

Right now the issues seems to be:
- the difference between an assault rifle and an "assault weapon"
- the difference between automatic and semi-automatic (how about if we start calling semis "self-reloading"?)
- "high-capacity magazines"
- the difference between an AK and an AK varient (sort of the difference between assault rifle and "assault weapon" but needs its own mention)
- calling .223/5.56 a "high-powered" caliber
- anything with an optic being called a "sniper rifle"

We are, however, making some progress. It's been a few months since I've read about the "Glock semi-automatic [duty] revolver".

stay safe.

birdman · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2013, 07:44:20 AM »

Quote from: vaskidmark on January 11, 2013, 06:53:34 AM

Way too technical. Biggest drawback is it needs an on-site expert to define the terms across the top.

Right now the issues seems to be:
- the difference between an assault rifle and an "assault weapon"
- the difference between automatic and semi-automatic (how about if we start calling semis "self-reloading"?)
- "high-capacity magazines"
- the difference between an AK and an AK varient (sort of the difference between assault rifle and "assault weapon" but needs its own mention)
- calling .223/5.56 a "high-powered" caliber
- anything with an optic being called a "sniper rifle"

We are, however, making some progress. It's been a few months since I've read about the "Glock semi-automatic [duty] revolver".

stay safe.

Self-loading. Not semi-automatic. Avoids the error of truncation.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 11, 2013, 08:02:23 AM »

Right off the top, what is a PDW? Need to spell that out.

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2013, 09:01:41 AM »

Lots of single-shot pistols, carbines, and rifles that aren't bolt action, either.

Fitz · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2013, 09:25:40 AM »

The graphic in the original post is unnecessary, they already have a fantastic guide they use...

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2013, 09:28:15 AM »

No, squirrel. No.

They'll need pictures, for starters.

TommyGunn · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2013, 01:14:50 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on January 11, 2013, 08:02:23 AM

Right off the top, what is a PDW? Need to spell that out.

Personal Defense Weapon.

Boomhauer · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2013, 01:19:44 PM »

You're going about this all logical and *expletive deleted*.

They don't care. Their job is propaganda, not truth. Actual research? ROFL at the thought. They are maliciously spouting off stuff because there is an agenda to be pushed.

Any reporters actually looking to report the real truth know how to do the research and who to actually ask. Believe me, it's not a case of "not enough information".

Devonai · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2013, 05:17:56 PM »

The only way this might work is if you dress it up to look like an official infographic from the Associated Press, then try to subversively release it to media outlets. If it saves just one journalist...

However, the stupid is mighty strong here. Two days ago I learned that local legislators want to ban "magazine cartridges that hold more than ten bullets."

SteveS · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2013, 05:28:27 PM »

Quote from: Avenger29 on January 11, 2013, 01:19:44 PM

You're going about this all logical and *expletive deleted*.

They don't care. Their job is propaganda, not truth. Actual research? ROFL at the thought. They are maliciously spouting off stuff because there is an agenda to be pushed.

Any reporters actually looking to report the real truth know how to do the research and who to actually ask. Believe me, it's not a case of "not enough information".

I think some are just lazy or they contact the police. Unfortunately, this doesn't always result in the most accurate information. I know the SAF occasionally does classes for the media, but I don't know how man take advantage of them.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2013, 07:26:09 PM »

Quote

In relation to my rant about mislabeling firearms in another thread, I've been trying to come up with a Firearms Nomenclature for Dummies Reporters. Anyone got any corrections to contribute to it?

I can't offer suggestions because I can't even understand it.

Bolt action is a cartridge type? If that's so, my granddaddy lied to me, because he told me it was a type of firearm action.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2013, 07:44:18 PM »

Educating the masses won't change them.

MrsSmith · « **Reply #13 on:** January 11, 2013, 09:03:17 PM »

Here's one that one of my shooting buddies and I put together for the company newsletter. He did the bullet's bit, I did the magazines.

Boomhauer · « **Reply #14 on:** January 11, 2013, 09:37:20 PM »

"Many bullets look like suppositories but they are not" ROFL!!!

freakazoid · « **Reply #15 on:** January 11, 2013, 10:26:35 PM »

That is awesome.

red headed stranger · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2013, 11:51:11 PM »

For quite some time, the AP style manual explained many of the basics of firearms terminology. I'm not sure what it looks like now though . . .

kgbsquirrel · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2013, 11:52:32 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on January 11, 2013, 07:26:09 PM

I can't offer suggestions because I can't even understand it.

Bolt action is a cartridge type? If that's so, my granddaddy lied to me, because he told me it was a type of firearm action.

Someone failed the color discernment sections of the IQ test, huh?

geronimotwo · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2013, 12:35:01 PM »

Quote from: Devonai on January 11, 2013, 05:17:56 PM

The only way this might work is if you dress it up to look like an official infographic from the Associated Press, then try to subversively release it to media outlets. If it saves just one journalist...

However, the stupid is mighty strong here. Two days ago I learned that local legislators want to ban "magazine cartridges that hold more than ten bullets."

i am beginning to believe that the media is giving us a litmus test on our own ignorance. rather like the nigerian prince emails that need your good faith deposit, they are continually misspelling, misquoting, and misinforming us and yet we continue to purchase the misinformation.

Waitone · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2013, 04:28:08 PM »

Dispense with any term using "automatic" or derivative.

Revolvers
Sliders

Ben · « **Reply #20 on:** January 12, 2013, 04:37:22 PM »

Quote from: Waitone on January 12, 2013, 04:28:08 PM

Dispense with any term using "automatic" or derivative.

Revolvers
Sliders

Boomhauer · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:32:36 PM »

Quote from: Waitone on January 12, 2013, 04:28:08 PM

Dispense with any term using "automatic" or derivative.

Revolvers
Sliders

Sliders? WtF?

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 12, 2013, 06:51:33 PM »

TechMan · « **Reply #23 on:** January 12, 2013, 07:15:54 PM »

Quote from: Gewehr98 on January 12, 2013, 06:51:33 PM

Those automatically come out the back end.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #24 on:** January 12, 2013, 08:08:37 PM »

Quote from: Avenger29 on January 12, 2013, 05:32:36 PM

Sliders? WtF?

Semi-auto handguns "slide," rather than revolve.

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Author Topic: Firearms Nomenclature (Read 6466 times)