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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2013, 11:04:56 PM »
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2013, 11:12:44 PM »
A friend of mine who until fairly recently didn't own more than a deer rifle and a .22, lucked out and scored a nice AR-15 today. He called a store right when they got a delivery and they held one for him. :cool:
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2013, 11:31:17 PM »
I am teaching a friend to shoot who only recently got interested in it.
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2013, 11:41:41 PM »
I managed to educate two fence sitting Obama voters on the 2nd Amendment and now, after reading some of the laws and the new EOs, they are PISSED.  Not at me/us but the lying liars in the Executive branch and Media.

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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2013, 12:48:55 AM »
Gun-related businesses raking it in; stock prices up.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/16/news/companies/gun-obama/index.html?section=money_news_companies

Pay cuts for leviathan's henchmen.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/house-gop-release-bill-to-reverse-obamas-pay-raise-for-federal-employees/article/2518773#.UPePZjltjcu

Police can't get ammo, either.   :P
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/nationwide-ammo-shortages-police


Also, I have two newb friends who want to get into guns. One of them will be keeping the gun(s) at my place, but the other one I will not be able to introduce to shooting on gun appreciation day, as I had hoped.  =(
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2013, 02:18:46 PM »
Gun-related businesses raking it in; stock prices up.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/16/news/companies/gun-obama/index.html?section=money_news_companies

Pay cuts for leviathan's henchmen.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/house-gop-release-bill-to-reverse-obamas-pay-raise-for-federal-employees/article/2518773#.UPePZjltjcu

Police can't get ammo, either.   :P
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/nationwide-ammo-shortages-police


Also, I have two newb friends who want to get into guns. One of them will be keeping the gun(s) at my place, but the other one I will not be able to introduce to shooting on gun appreciation day, as I had hoped.  =(

So, regarding the third link, NY cops potentially may be carrying their illegal superdeathcapacity magazines, but only have seven or less rounds in them because that's all they can get. Irony, thou art Delicious.
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2013, 08:27:04 PM »
"...first-time gun buyers now making up a quarter of all sales..."

The article buries this explosive quote. A 25% growth rate is mind blowing. I mean, this is historic... real history book stuff.

http://www.startribune.com/local/187554781.html?refer=y&refer=y

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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2013, 10:38:24 PM »
"...first-time gun buyers now making up a quarter of all sales..."

The article buries this explosive quote. A 25% growth rate is mind blowing. I mean, this is historic... real history book stuff.

http://www.startribune.com/local/187554781.html?refer=y&refer=y

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Where do they get that figure? They must be looking at states that require ownership permits. Or maybe they're counting first-time CCWs as first-time gun buyers.
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2013, 10:46:22 PM »

Where do they get that figure? They must be looking at states that require ownership permits. Or maybe they're counting first-time CCWs as first-time gun buyers.

More likely they're doing polling and extrapolating from that
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2013, 11:53:53 PM »
"...first-time gun buyers now making up a quarter of all sales..."

The article buries this explosive quote. A 25% growth rate is mind blowing. I mean, this is historic... real history book stuff.

http://www.startribune.com/local/187554781.html?refer=y&refer=y

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It would be mind-blowing, if it were true.  25% of recent sales being to first-time gun owners does not correlate to gun ownership rising by 25%

Easy example: there are 10 gun owners.  3 of them went and bought a new gun last month.  Also, one person who never owned a gun bought one.  25% of sales were to first-time gun owners, and now there are 11 instead of 10

Edited to correct "There are now 11 instead of 12"
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2013, 12:51:48 AM »
It would be mind-blowing, if it were true.  25% of recent sales being to first-time gun owners does not correlate to gun ownership rising by 25%

Easy example: there are 10 gun owners.  3 of them went and bought a new gun last month.  Also, one person who never owned a gun bought one.  25% of sales were to first-time gun owners, and now there are 11 instead of 12

 :facepalm: Your right. Percentages are so tricky. I got so excited about a 25% new owner number didn't stop to think it through.
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2013, 04:08:31 PM »
NRA polls better than Hollywood

Ooooh.... That's excellent!
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2013, 09:46:41 PM »
Baby steps.

How Gun Culture Won Over Liberals
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/how-gun-culture-won-over-liberals
"On a recent evening at Bull's Head Tavern in Manhattan's Chelsea neighborhood, twentysomething revelers balanced IPAs in one hand, and toy firearms — green handled or blaze orange — in the other. Antelope and deer loped across an HD screen, and players took turns drunkenly firing off shots at them. This was Big Buck Hunter, an arcade shooting game that has gained irony-fueled popularity across New York. About 130 bars in the city claim to offer it, and last November one East Village dive bar hosted a Big Buck Hunter world championship."

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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2013, 06:28:55 PM »
Another Sheriff speaks out against gun control.

http://www.jocosheriff.org/index.aspx?page=36&recordid=93&returnURL=%2findex.aspx

It's very uplifting to me to see so many Sheriffs make a stand against enforcing gun control laws. I can't remember any past gun control pushes that had so many LEOs at the Sheriff level (versus deputies, beat cops, etc) speaking out against gun control. Apparently whatever the national Sheriffs association is called is in favor of most of Obama's gun control measures, so it does my heart good to see so many of these elected Law Enforcement officials countering that and speaking out.
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2013, 10:39:57 AM »
Another Sheriff speaks out against gun control.

http://www.jocosheriff.org/index.aspx?page=36&recordid=93&returnURL=%2findex.aspx

It's very uplifting to me to see so many Sheriffs make a stand against enforcing gun control laws. I can't remember any past gun control pushes that had so many LEOs at the Sheriff level (versus deputies, beat cops, etc) speaking out against gun control. Apparently whatever the national Sheriffs association is called is in favor of most of Obama's gun control measures, so it does my heart good to see so many of these elected Law Enforcement officials countering that and speaking out.

Yeah, it's good to hear but I can't help but remember that the LEO associations in Montana successfully lobbied our recent former governor (who shall not be named  >:D ) into vetoing our "constitutional carry" law after the legislature adjourned.   :mad:

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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2013, 11:04:30 AM »
Yeah, it's good to hear but I can't help but remember that the LEO associations in Montana successfully lobbied our recent former governor (who shall not be named  >:D ) into vetoing our "constitutional carry" law after the legislature adjourned.   :mad:

Crime and politics: the situation is always fluid.   =|

Party Pooper. :P
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2013, 06:45:02 PM »
Pro-gun article by a left-winger. Note that it was written pre-Sandy Hook. I didn't read down into the comments to see what his reaction was to Obama going for a gun grab. Other than the pre-second term sticking up for Obama, I was pleasantly surprised to see him give a logical argument against an AWB.

http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/why-not-renew-the-assault-weapons-ban-well-ill-tell-you/
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2013, 07:56:33 PM »
they are PISSED.  Not at me/us but the lying liars in the Executive branch and Media.

That describes most people I talk to.
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2013, 10:49:54 PM »
Pro-gun article by a left-winger. Note that it was written pre-Sandy Hook. I didn't read down into the comments to see what his reaction was to Obama going for a gun grab. Other than the pre-second term sticking up for Obama, I was pleasantly surprised to see him give a logical argument against an AWB.

http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/why-not-renew-the-assault-weapons-ban-well-ill-tell-you/


This part I have a question about:
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automatic weapons (those that fire more than one bullet with each pull of the trigger) are already illegal for the average citizen to own. They are heavily regulated by the federal government, registered with the ATF and very difficult to obtain licenses for.

What really stands in the way of the "average citizen" who wants to own an automatic weapon? Isn't it mostly a question of money, and having a very clean record?
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2013, 08:37:59 PM »
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/number-nations-sheriffs-refusing-enforce-unconstitutional-gun-laws

http://www.examiner.com/article/127-sheriffs-won-t-enforce-obama-gun-laws-specter-of-door-to-door-gun-search

I sure wish this would hit the mainstream. Some of the outlets have been interviewing a sheriff here and there, but I have seen no MSM reports on the numbers.

I wonder who the lone Utah holdout was?  :laugh:
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2013, 07:36:09 PM »
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Re: Chin Up!
« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2013, 09:09:52 PM »
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