NRA Prediction Thread

[RoadKingLarry]

Of course the left is nearly apoplectic with their outrage over it. How dare the NRA bring Obama's children into the politics. Of course it's OK for Obama to use other people's kids for his political posturing,

[SteveS]

Of course the left is nearly apoplectic with their outrage over it. How dare the NRA bring Obama's children into the politics. Of course it's OK for Obama to use other people's kids for his political posturing,

I wondered the same thing.  Obama carts out a group of kids and talks about how little Suzy wrote him a letter asking him to do something and how he is going to try really hard.  I don't think anyone begrudges Obama's kids having Secret Service protection, but their school also has some 14+ armed guards.  My kids, by law, can't have any lawful armed presence in their school.  How are my kids less deserving of protection? 

[longeyes]

Your kids are not the inheritors of the Progressive Globalist vision.  Know your place.

[Scout26]

Anything more than what we do now (adjudicated as a danger unable to own guns) is offensive to me, as it will likely bar me and most other combat vets from gun ownership. So since they are proposing "doing more" the exact details aren't terribly relevant. Trusting the NRA to not sell me out is kind of like NY residents trusting their GOP senators.

I find that extremely short sighted.  From what I have read, the NRA is recommending that those that need treatment be able to get it, without the fear of loss of one's civil rights.  I remember the fight over NICS Improvement Bill.  The NRA put things in there to help veterans (especially those that had been put into the NICS system by the VA, without having been adjudicated).   The NRA has been one of the staunchest allies of Veterans and their rights.

So come out against the NRA because they said we need to "do more" in regards mental health, doesn't seem like using critical thinking skills.   Had they come out and said "PTSD=No Guns"  then yes, I would agree with you 100%.   But I do know what the NRA has said in the past is that states need to do a better job of ensuring that information about those THAT HAVE BEEN ADJUDICATED be entered and shared. 

[Balog]

I find that extremely short sighted.  From what I have read, the NRA is recommending that those that need treatment be able to get it, without the fear of loss of one's civil rights.  I remember the fight over NICS Improvement Bill.  The NRA put things in there to help veterans (especially those that had been put into the NICS system by the VA, without having been adjudicated).   The NRA has been one of the staunchest allies of Veterans and their rights.

So come out against the NRA because they said we need to "do more" in regards mental health, doesn't seem like using critical thinking skills.   Had they come out and said "PTSD=No Guns"  then yes, I would agree with you 100%.   But I do know what the NRA has said in the past is that states need to do a better job of ensuring that information about those THAT HAVE BEEN ADJUDICATED be entered and shared. 

I find the amount of trust you place in the organization naive. The heart of the ILA is not idealists fighting for our rights, it's a bunch of guys who make six figure salaries sucking up to poli-critters. Give 'em a big enough pay raise and they'd be doing for the VPC or Brady bunch. They've already shown their willingness to oppose efforts to fight laws in court, and to throw groups under the bus if they feel it'll further the overall agenda. I think they'd go full Zumbo if they thought they could get away with it.

[cosine]

Personally, the NRA impressed me.

I intend to sign up again, perhaps see about a life membership.  But, they have to add me to the "Do not market to" list.  Last time I was a member, I'm pretty sure they spent all my money on postage mailing me propaganda/offers.

Interestingly, I joined last summer but have received very little in the way of mailings from the NRA. The stories I had heard of people's mailboxes being inundated with flyers from the NRA hasn't happened to me, and I had made no request to be added to a "No marketing/mailing" list. I'm getting maybe 3-4 emails a week from the NRA but don't find it an inconvenience since they're easily deleted.

[bscl]

I wondered the same thing.  Obama carts out a group of kids and talks about how little Suzy wrote him a letter asking him to do something and how he is going to try really hard.  I don't think anyone begrudges Obama's kids having Secret Service protection, but their school also has some 14+ armed guards.  My kids, by law, can't have any lawful armed presence in their school.  How are my kids less deserving of protection? 

People need to ask themselves - who is more important to me, my own children or a bunch of overpaid politicians and celebrities?  I know it won't matter to some, like the "end justifies the means" types or the radical pacifists who won't even lift a finger to protect their own children if given the opportunity.  THAT is where people should be directing their "enough is enough!" energy.  Why do my kids deserve less protection?  Let's turn class warfare back on them.

[Scout26]

As someone elsewhere has pointed out each organization has its own function and purpose.  SAF goes after crappy laws and crappy states in courts.  State org's hammer on state and local .gov's and the NRA is the 800# gorilla on Capitol Hill.   People can take about the GOA and other groups, but the ones mentioned by the press and the anti's is the NRA.

And one final thought.  When you are done bad-mouthing them, take a moment and thank them for the 2008 NICS Improvement bill.  If it hadn't been for the NRA getting that passed, I can pretty much guarantee that Obama would have the record of every vet that ever mentioned PTSD to the VA on the NICS list as of yesterday.   

[Balog]

Wow, someone on the Internet was a snide, condescending prick because I hold legitimate concerns about a political organization. I'm gonna go become a lifetime member right now!!!! 

[Perd Hapley]

Wow, someone on the Internet was a snide, condescending prick because I hold legitimate concerns about a political organization. I'm gonna go become a lifetime member right now!!!! 

Um, who?  Scout hasn't been that way. I don't think I have.

[lupinus]

Wow, someone on the Internet was a snide, condescending prick because I hold legitimate concerns about a political organization. I'm gonna go become a lifetime member right now!!!! 

Um.

Do what?

[Ron]

Human institutions are untrustworthy and cannot be counted on in the long run as a general rule. This includes the NRA.

Looking at their recent history I think it is safe to say that they are reflecting our point of view more than the Zumbo point of view.

When they "jump the shark" I'll break bad on them publicly. So far they have done a pretty good job at being on the right side of things.