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Magpul
« on: February 15, 2013, 05:09:39 PM »
Magpul announced via Facebook that if the Colorado gun control legislation
(SHB 1224?) passes, they will leave Colorado.
I wish more manufacturers would grow a set and leave gun unfriendly states behind.
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2013, 05:10:28 PM »
Go Magpul!

(And come to AZ!) =D


ETA:  I hope they also say they won't sell to CO law enforcement, either.
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2013, 05:12:47 PM »
Probably a solid business move.  People in the gun culture tend to remember things like this.

Good for them!

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Re: Magpul
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 05:13:42 PM »
That makes me feel even better about buying there stuff.  Of course if they stop production to move we'll never see their stuff. oh well.

I'd really like to see some bigger companies like S&W or Glock do this.  As great as this and Oly and the rest are, I fear most legislatures are like "Magwho?".

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Re: Magpul
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 07:34:09 PM »
Magpul's bread and butter is mostly with the open civilian market, so they are wise to react to attempts to kill civilian purchases. Other companies like Glock probably wouldn't care too much because they are well established in the closed .gov market.
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2013, 08:01:27 PM »
Magpul's bread and butter is mostly with the open civilian market, so they are wise to react to attempts to kill civilian purchases. Other companies like Glock probably wouldn't care too much because they are well established in the closed .gov market.

I never understood this mentality.

There are between 800k and 1 million sworn law enforcement officers, fed and local, in the US.

There are 150 million gun owners.  47 percent of Americans answer that they have at least 1 gun in the home.  At 310 million total US population, that means nearly half own guns.  You want to quibble over interpretation in regards to that then the most we're arguing over might be 25 million.

But that's 1 million, versus over 100 million.

If Glock had 1% of the civilian market share... they're on par with having a 100% monopoly on the law enforcement market share.  And they only have about 60% of the law enforcement market, sharing the rest with Sig, Beretta, S&W and whomever else has the remaining scraps.

So, they are willing to rile up the 100+ million gun owners over a market slice of 600k or so?

And the gunnies like most of us here... I don't have enough digits to count all the guns I own.  I currently don't own a Glock, but I have in the past.  I imagine there are dozens of Glock owners here, many of whom own more than 1 specimen.  And pay attention to things like this.

The US firearms market is CONSUMER driven.  No LEO driven.

If consumers were to actively punish manufacturers that complied and kowtowed to leftists/statists, they'd go out of business.  There isn't enough government contracts to keep them afloat.
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 08:27:50 PM »
i was in the wegmans yuppy grocery yesterday

every one of the gun mags on the shelf had a modern sporting rifle on the cover. I heard magpul was offered an exemption to stay and sell out of state and keep the tax revenue in CO.

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Re: Magpul
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2013, 08:21:51 AM »
Ill have to fag out another carbine with magpul goodness once this whole obamination crap blows over. :P
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2013, 10:48:16 AM »
I never understood this mentality.


You suck and we hate you? ???
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2013, 10:54:05 AM »
More specifically:

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Can you imagine going on ARFcom and trying to explain to those fanboys they need to stop buying Glocks (or HK's or God help us all Colt AR's) because of support of the 2A. Most of those kids would  literally sell their own mother before they admit that their G-whatever isn't the cats meow.  The mere suggestion that their purchases should be based on politics that affect them instead of something realistic, like throwing the pistol from a moving airplane or shooting more rounds then they've ever seen without cleaning, would get you laughed out of that corner of the internet.
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2013, 11:02:13 AM »


So, they are willing to rile up the 100+ million gun owners over a market slice of 600k or so?



They may be willing to take the chance that many of the 100+ million gun owners are not members of forums and don't really follow this stuff at all.  If I visit a gun store, I can see that Glocks, Sigs, and S&Ws are still selling well, so there isn't really that much pressure on them to change. 
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2013, 02:24:56 PM »
My impression is that Glock is in GA.  I don't know what that has to do with CO.  The legislation if passed would not exclude Magpul from manufacturing their products.  I think it is admirable that they are willing to at least threaten leaving the state if the legislation passes.
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2013, 02:44:23 PM »
More specifically:

Can you imagine going on ARFcom and trying to explain to those fanboys they need to stop buying Glocks (or HK's or God help us all Colt AR's) because of support of the 2A. Most of those kids would  literally sell their own mother before they admit that their G-whatever isn't the cats meow.  The mere suggestion that their purchases should be based on politics that affect them instead of something realistic, like throwing the pistol from a moving airplane or shooting more rounds then they've ever seen without cleaning, would get you laughed out of that corner of the internet.

Meh, I'll put Colt into the neutral category, at least in terms of deeds equaling a lot of words. Colt carbines being in Walmarts counts for something with me. Kind of like S&W never really vocally diapering the Clinton-HUD deal, but instead getting into AR's and making the x-frame .500 and .460 revolvers. That was a message too...
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2013, 03:44:21 PM »
I was on arfcom for awhile, then when I moved I couldn't log on due to my email account was with my cable service and I couldn't remember my password.
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2013, 08:28:10 PM »
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    We're hearing some rumors that the Gov and the Dem caucus think we are bluffing. Just to clarify for them, then...we're not a political company. We dont play political games. We've made our position very clear, very publicly. We would not survive lying to our customer base, nor would we ever consider it. If you pass this, we will leave, and you will own it. We've already got plans in place to get PMAG manufacturing moved rapidly, and the rest of the company will follow. We will make sure to at least have a small remain-behind operation through the 2014 elections so that we can remind folks why we are gone.

https://www.facebook.com/magpul/posts/561802137165473

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Re: Magpul
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2013, 09:18:55 PM »
That's good.
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2013, 09:48:02 PM »
Wow... I thought the gauntlet was supposed to hit the ground, not your opponent's face...
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2013, 07:00:02 AM »
Wow... I thought the gauntlet was supposed to hit the ground, not your opponent's face...

You have to hit them in the face with the gauntlet.  If you were to drop the gauntlet, these idiots wouldn't be able to see it with their noses stuck so high in the air.
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2013, 07:59:12 AM »
Sur! I say, I say Sur! I demand satisfaction! *thwack
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Re: Magpul
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2013, 09:53:14 AM »
Magpul announced via Facebook that if the Colorado gun control legislation
(SHB 1224?) passes, they will leave Colorado.
I wish more manufacturers would grow a set and leave gun unfriendly states behind.

Part of it would be that House Bill 1224 would also make their business more unprofitable, as it comes with extra restrictions. Good call for leaving, though. Any firearms manufacturers that STAY in states that outlaws their products are idiots. It's not a good business decision.
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Re: Magpul
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2013, 06:09:08 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/magpul?ref=stream  21 hours ago
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We're hearing some rumors that the Gov and the Dem caucus think we are bluffing. Just to clarify for them, then...we're not a political company. We dont play political games. We've made our position very clear, very publicly. We would not survive lying to our customer base, nor would we ever consider it. If you pass this, we will leave, and you will own it. We've already got plans in place to get PMAG manufacturing moved rapidly, and the rest of the company will follow. We will make sure to at least have a small remain-behind operation through the 2014 elections so that we can remind folks why we are gone.


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Re: Magpul
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2013, 06:21:58 PM »
I merged C&SD's thread into this one. 

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Re: Magpul
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2013, 08:42:39 PM »
Magpul now belongs in the pantheon.  I can't afford a Barrett, but whatever Magpul makes will be my first choice from now on, forever.  More power to them, and those like them.
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