Ship containing something radioactive detected in port Elizabeth

[never_retreat]

Anyone here anything else on this story? Most news sources are not covering anything.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,62897,00.html

[drewtam]

Published September 12, 2002

Authorities were alerted to a possible concern about the ship's cargo as it made its way to the United States with stops in Asia and the Middle East, top trouble regions in the Bush administration's war on terrorism, two officials said.

[dm1333]

Jeez,  I hope they're done with the boarding by now.   

[kgbsquirrel]

How did you stumble across an 10 year old article?

[never_retreat]

I did not pick up on the date. I only went online after I heard it on the radio today.
Found the current story. My bad.
http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2013/02/high_radiation_reading_sends_e.html#incart_river

[Cliffh]

Typical .gov over-reaction.  One guy with a bit of training and a few $$ worth of equipment could have saved everyone a lot of trouble.  

Or called in the troops if needed.

ETA:  During the shut-down cleanup of Mare Island Naval Shipyard, my crew & I got raked over the coals for one incident.  We'd found a slightly higher than background reading, so we got a pick and shovel and carefully dug down to the radium-painted watch face.  Kept everything isolated, bagged, etc.  We got a reaming 'cause we didn't post the area and call in the troops (with the associated hazmat equipment, etc.).  Didn't matter that we were the premier radiography team on the yard and had a pretty good idea what we were doing.

[kgbsquirrel]

This reminds me of something I read a while back when doing my usual insomnia-fueled wiki surf...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

Oh, and personally, I think it's a nice thing that their detectors are sensitive enough to pick up traces of Caesium in (likely) recycled steel wire. Look at it this way, if they're picking up a few picograms of the stuff that got into the steel from basic atmospheric contamination during smelting, and was shielded inside a steel container, what are the odds that a physics package with a couple dozen kilograms of hot materials are gonna sneak through?

ETA: Stupid typos...

[dm1333]

Typical .gov over-reaction.

Really? 

[Cliffh]

Really? 

Yep.

Oh, and personally, I think it's a nice that their detectors are sensitive enough to pick up traces of Caesium in (likely) recycled steel wire.

Same here.  They've got some seriously sensitive equipment to pick up that miniscule amount.  The reading from that wire must have been just barely above background.

[AJ Dual]

I'm guessing these detectors key off of neutron energy/velocity rather than simple quantity.

[vaskidmark]

So, the take-away for me is that 10 years ago there was a container ship trying to get in that set off the alarms, and we put it in a stand-off location 6 miles out to sea, while today we get a reading from a container that is outboujnd and we close down the road leading to the port while folks mess with the trailer sitting there.

10 years ago we prevent the port from being blown up.  Today we "guarantee" a ground zero.

Or did I miss something?

stay safe.

[Cliffh]

Or did I miss something?

stay safe.

I did not pick up on the date. I only went online after I heard it on the radio today.
Found the current story. My bad.
http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2013/02/high_radiation_reading_sends_e.html#incart_river

From the link above:
By Star-Ledger Staff on February 28, 2013 at 7:21 PM, updated February 28, 2013 at 7:42 PM

[Hawkmoon]

So, the take-away for me is that 10 years ago there was a container ship trying to get in that set off the alarms, and we put it in a stand-off location 6 miles out to sea, while today we get a reading from a container that is outboujnd and we close down the road leading to the port while folks mess with the trailer sitting there.

10 years ago we prevent the port from being blown up.  Today we "guarantee" a ground zero.

Or did I miss something?

stay safe.

That appears to sum it up pretty well.

[birdman]

So I see attempting to ship a delorean with integral time machine via ISO container is a bad idea...

[Doggy Daddy]

So I see attempting to ship a delorean with integral time machine via ISO container is a bad idea...

If you have a DeLorean time machine, why would you need to ship it anywhere??   

[kgbsquirrel]

If you have a DeLorean time machine, why would you need to ship it anywhere??   

Forgot to pick up a Mister Fusion on the last trip and ran out of plutonium, obviously.

[Boomhauer]

If you have a DeLorean time machine, why would you need to ship it anywhere??   

When the POS breaks down...

[Doggy Daddy]

When the POS breaks down...

          

[dogmush]

If you have a DeLorean time machine, why would you need to ship it anywhere??   

It's a time machine. It doesn't move in space as well.  You need to get it to the location that whatever you want to see in another time happened.

It's not like it's bigger on the inside or something.

[Doggy Daddy]

It's a time machine. It doesn't move in space as well.  You need to get it to the location that whatever you want to see in another time happened.

It's not like it's bigger on the inside or something.

I'm assuming that if it can move through time, then it can move through space.  It's a feature that does not need to be listed.  A coffee maker can heat water.   

[dogmush]

Nope, that's completly different drive system. DeLorean time machines move in time but not in space. Look at the cannon.

There ARE time machines that do both (I alluded to one) but Doc's car isn't one of them, and they tend to be labeled as such.

H G Wells' machine was also stationary in all but the fourth dimension.

[AJ Dual]

Nope, that's completly different drive system. DeLorean time machines move in time but not in space. Look at the cannon.

There ARE time machines that do both (I alluded to one) but Doc's car isn't one of them, and they tend to be labeled as such.

H G Wells' machine was also stationary in all but the fourth dimension.

Well, popping out into somewhere else along Earth's orbit, or even interstellar space, how far depending on to when you traveled would kind of suck. So I would say it does.

[Devonai]

Doc Brown's invention remains gravitationally bound to the point of temporal incursion by a exponential increase in the generation of superluminal theta neutrinos, which are propelled either forward or backward to the intended destination depending on the superposition of the flux capacitor upon activation.  Duh.

[Tallpine]

Doc Brown's invention remains gravitationally bound to the point of temporal incursion by a exponential increase in the generation of superluminal theta neutrinos, which are propelled either forward or backward to the intended destination depending on the superposition of the flux capacitor upon activation.  Duh.

Heavy!   

[Fitz]

It's a time machine. It doesn't move in space as well.  You need to get it to the location that whatever you want to see in another time happened.

It's not like it's bigger on the inside or something.

Which is why it sucks.

If you travel through time only, not space, you've got a pretty awesome chance of materializing in your destination time, but floating in space as earth orbits somewhere very far away.