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Re: Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #75 on: May 14, 2013, 11:00:29 AM »
http://michellemalkin.com/2013/05/13/beware-of-ivaw-nutball-turned-gun-rights-organizer-adam-kokesh/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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I see a lot of talk about what the group he was apart of apparently did, but not a whole lot on him, at least nothing to bad, I think AZRedhawk44s post fits here. And good job on Michelle Malkin using a link to The Daily Caller which is trying to make the case of how people with PTSD shouldn't have firearms, because apparently at one time he said he use to get anxiety attacks after coming back from the war and was uncomfortable getting drunk and being around large crowds. :mad: I'm uncomfortable being around large crowds of people I don't know too, and I also don't like to get drunk around people I don't know.

To quote a comment from Michelle Malkins blog, "It is never irresponsible to exercise your Constitutionally protected rights."
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #76 on: May 14, 2013, 11:01:39 AM »
People can go ahead and rally behind Kokesh if they want to.

When it negatively affects the cause, they'll all cry and whine.


Kokesh and his ilk are idiots.
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Re: Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #77 on: May 14, 2013, 11:29:44 AM »
I see a lot of talk about what the group he was apart of apparently did, but not a whole lot on him, at least nothing to bad, I think AZRedhawk44s post fits here. And good job on Michelle Malkin using a link to The Daily Caller which is trying to make the case of how people with PTSD shouldn't have firearms, because apparently at one time he said he use to get anxiety attacks after coming back from the war and was uncomfortable getting drunk and being around large crowds. :mad: I'm uncomfortable being around large crowds of people I don't know too, and I also don't like to get drunk around people I don't know.

To quote a comment from Michelle Malkins blog, "It is never irresponsible to exercise your Constitutionally protected rights."

you commit fraud to discredit others too?  and issue defiant confessions when caught?


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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #78 on: May 14, 2013, 11:36:22 AM »
http://www.newswithviews.com/Kincaid/cliff525.htm


kokesh is a soiled rich kid. seen a ton like him

and any of his fans that will actually walk with him, as opposed to write about it. i will provide room and board and a ride to the march.  call when you get out and i'll pick you up.


let me know in advance so i can buy enough food >:D
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It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #79 on: May 14, 2013, 11:39:14 AM »
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #80 on: May 14, 2013, 11:41:12 AM »
"Soiled" or "spoiled"????????


spoiled  call it a Freudian slip  >:D
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #81 on: May 14, 2013, 11:58:47 AM »
Kokesh will walk nowhere.

Remember his excuse, "I will walk only if 1000 people sign up and arrive at the march start point"?

Mark my words: this is a pre-pared excuse not to walk.
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #82 on: May 14, 2013, 12:07:48 PM »
Kokesh will walk nowhere.

Remember his excuse, "I will walk only if 1000 people sign up and arrive at the march start point"?

Mark my words: this is a pre-pared excuse not to walk.

statist! [popcorn] >:D =D =D =D
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2013, 12:08:47 PM »
Kokesh will walk nowhere.

Remember his excuse, "I will walk only if 1000 people sign up and arrive at the march start point"?

Mark my words: this is a pre-pared excuse not to walk.

Could be, or could be a way to get people to up the chances of them showing up.
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #84 on: May 14, 2013, 01:29:03 PM »
Want to bet money they ain't going anywhere?

I'm poor and in need of cash.
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2013, 01:35:01 PM »
Want to bet money they ain't going anywhere?

I'm poor and in need of cash.


thats hunting over bait
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2013, 06:18:18 PM »
Found this on FB.  Buddy of mine reposted/shared this from Uncle Sam's Misguided Children's page.
 
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Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children does not support the armed march on Washington, DC set for July 4, 2013. After researching the march’s principal organizer, Adam Kokesh, we’ve learned that his Anti-American ties and rhetoric are against everything that the Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children stands for.

Adam Kokesh is a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) and is closely related to Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER). ANSWER is left-wing organization that supports amnesty for illegals. In 2006 they protested against “Save our State” and the “Minutemen Project,” in California and have continued to support illegal immigration and amnesty. IVAW itself is not without its share of zealots either. One member threatened to blow up the Gathering of Eagles, assassinate Michelle Malkin, and one was even proven to be a fake Army Ranger who was later prosecuted under the Stolen Valor Act (Jesse MacBeth). In 2010, IVAW Board Members actually burned an American flag during a protest! They also support amnesty for deserters and cowards who run from their military obligations and hide in Canada.

Adam Kokesh has well documented ties to Code Pink, whose founder is a Left-wing Progressive Democrat and anti-war/anti-military activist. Code Pink is actively, as recently as last week, engaged in anti-2nd Amendment protests. Additionally, Adam Kokesh has aligned himself with The Palestine Right to Return Coalition, which, according to Steven Emerson, director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, is the “de facto arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S. “

Adam Kokesh is a Former Marine, which leads many Active Duty and Former Marines to support him as “one of them.” But in reality, Adam Kokesh is an opportunist and a fraud whose only mission is to gain attention and solicit donations for his own pocket. Now, Adam Kokesh is poised to single-handedly unravel five years of hard work and progress by patriot groups and our supporters in Government, Law Enforcement and the Military.

Another reason why Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children does not support this rally is due to feedback we’ve received on a recent poll we conducted on our page. After hearing from many people on both sides of the debate, we have found that far too many people who claim to be attending this march are also expressing their intentions/hopes that this march will lead to one side firing upon the other in what they wish to be the second, "shot heard around the world."

Many of the views expressed by these "pro-marchers" are considered by the Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children leadership to be seditious and aimed at inciting a violent clash with Law Enforcement and other agencies in the DC area. Brandenburg v. Ohio maintains that seditious speech – including speech that constitutes an incitement to violence – is protected by the 1st Amendment as long as it does not indicate an “imminent” threat. These people expressing their desires to attend this rally with the hopes of firing upon the US Government and its agencies are walking a very, very, thin line. Although Adam Kokesh has expressed numerous times that his protest will be peaceful, we've heard from far too many of his followers saying how they are "sick of waiting" and wish to "get it started already." There is no way that Adam Kokesh can maintain control of a crowd of armed protestors.

While we do not assume that the majority of the attendees will go with the intention of participating in armed rebellion, the fact that there are enough people attending that will go with those intentions is sufficient evidence for alarm.
Armed revolution should always be the last resort. Many of the pro-marchers believe that they are following the path of our founding fathers, but fail to realize that it was the British who marched on the Colonists, not the Colonists who marched on Boston. It was the British who fired the opening salvo of the Revolutionary War, not the Colonial Militias. In fact, our founding fathers were forced into war. They did not start it.

In light of recent legislative victories regarding gun registration and outright bans on semi-automatic rifles and accessories, Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children urges our members to keep fighting the system peacefully and through diplomatic process. We believe the momentum has begun to swing in the favor of Constitutionalists in this country and we must focus our efforts in keeping up the pressure on our elected representatives to stand tall in the face of a tyrannical dictator and his regime.

Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children is not affiliated with the “Sippsey Street Irregulars” or the “threepercenters.org blog.” The views expressed here are ours alone. We do not rely upon the views of other Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children organizations, nor do we seek their counsel or solicit a response from them.

Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children is not a radicalized, terrorist organization bent on overthrowing the government. We believe in working with our elected officials, law enforcement agencies, and military, to educate the citizenry and promote grass roots movements to peacefully reclaim our country and return a smaller, Constitutionally-based government, to the people of the United States of America.

Having studied the American Revolution and the events leading up to the original “Shot heard around the world,” we believe that our Founding Fathers tolerated a number of “intolerable acts” before declaring independence from British rule. And they waited until attacked before engaging in armed conflict.

If we wish to model ourselves after our Founding Fathers, and lay claim to the heritage of the original “Three Percent,” we must continue to follow the examples they left us and first exhaust all legal and legislative means possible. The major difference between our Founding Fathers and the Patriots of today is that whereas they had no support from the British crown, we have support within the government of the United States of America. And that support is growing on a daily basis.

Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children believes that this armed march, even if nothing happens, will simply be used by the Socialist Obama Administration to renew anti-2nd Amendment legislation against responsible, law-abiding, gun owners and portray patriot groups and their supporters as “radical, right-wing, extremists.” All this will accomplish is a revitalized effort to ban and confiscate firearms from Americans and drive away the support we currently have in government.

Until peace is no longer an option…

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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2013, 08:44:39 PM »
Scout, I still contend that when you view Kokesh from a left/right perspective, you get it all wrong.

I can tell by his associations that he's neither left nor right.  He's up.

Kind of like OWS.  They're not really left.  They're just poorly educated libertarians-that-could-be, being used by the socialists.  Go hang out with an occupy movement and actually talk with some of them.  They're anti-authoritarian and anti-tax (except a handful of misguided fools that want to "tax the rich").

Both parties are dying, and desperately trying to cling to the fallacy of left/right when really the modern political activism is all about dismantling of authority.  From both "sides."  It's just a matter of what issues of represented authority are more prominent in your opinion.
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #88 on: May 15, 2013, 10:11:25 PM »
Both parties are dying...

Wishful thinking.


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the modern political activism is all about dismantling of authority.  From both "sides."  It's just a matter of what issues of represented authority are more prominent in your opinion.

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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2013, 10:36:06 PM »
Wishful thinking.


Agreed. Too many useful idiots still out there that keep voting for dempublicans because they "don't want to throw their vote away".
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #90 on: May 15, 2013, 10:49:40 PM »
Agreed. Too many useful idiots still out there that keep voting for dempublicans because they "don't want to throw their vote away".

Oh, but it really is enjoyable - convincing San Francisco liberals to stand up for their pro peace parties like workers world or green party... I love getting the lefties to squirm about supporting all the things they say they hated when GW was prez.
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #91 on: May 15, 2013, 10:54:26 PM »
Agreed. Too many useful idiots still out there that keep voting for dempublicans because they "don't want to throw their vote away".

Or just look at how many seats and offices the two parties control. Ya know, most of 'em?
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #92 on: May 15, 2013, 11:18:43 PM »
Or just look at how many seats and offices the two parties control. Ya know, most of 'em?

And that will never change until people get over their phobia about "throwing their vote away" - which is actively aided and abetted by those who stand to benefit most from that phobia.

This is my shocked face.

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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #93 on: May 15, 2013, 11:29:26 PM »
And that will never change until people get over their phobia about "throwing their vote away" - which is actively aided and abetted by those who stand to benefit most from that phobia.

This is my shocked face.


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It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2013, 01:51:23 PM »
Based on an entrail reading of the interwebs, do any of you guys think that people will show up? Some people I know (not fans) seem to think they will in considerable numbers. If that is the case, why didn't they show up three years ago when we were outnumbered two to one by media?

I remain skeptical. Like AZ i believe he pre-packaged his "out"
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #96 on: May 17, 2013, 02:31:55 PM »
Based on an entrail reading of the interwebs, do any of you guys think that people will show up? Some people I know (not fans) seem to think they will in considerable numbers. If that is the case, why didn't they show up three years ago when we were outnumbered two to one by media?

I remain skeptical. Like AZ i believe he pre-packaged his "out"

i hope you are right but never underestimate the power of stupid people in groups
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #97 on: May 19, 2013, 02:34:48 AM »
To be honest, the trending attitude of the rulers is such that I would not be entirely surprised if, in the face of a significant turnout and failing other methods of derailment, the extreme occurred, and security forces under premeditated and deliberate orders emptied on the entire crowd, the surviving citizens who were carrying weapons get charged with the wholesale massacre of their friends because they were "committing a felony" at the time, therefore everything that happened is their fault, police and agents being beyond reproach because "officer safety" and "just doing their jobs"... Holder's wet dream. 

But by the look of things patriots are not yet motivated to walk the walk so no massacre worries in the meantime  ;)
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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #98 on: May 19, 2013, 08:47:57 AM »
To be honest, the trending attitude of the rulers is such that I would not be entirely surprised if, in the face of a significant turnout and failing other methods of derailment, the extreme occurred, and security forces under premeditated and deliberate orders emptied on the entire crowd, the surviving citizens who were carrying weapons get charged with the wholesale massacre of their friends because they were "committing a felony" at the time, therefore everything that happened is their fault, police and agents being beyond reproach because "officer safety" and "just doing their jobs"... Holder's wet dream. 

But by the look of things patriots are not yet motivated to walk the walk so no massacre worries in the meantime  ;)



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Re: Adam Kokesh planning loaded rifle protest march into DC
« Reply #99 on: May 19, 2013, 01:01:46 PM »

I guess you'll be there by yourself, then?

I don't follow, did you take offense at my comment about patriots? I was poking fun at the situation that just a few months ago there was quite a bit of interwebz noise that people were ready to start THE revolution, but suddenly simple disobedience and bearing arms is all crazy talk.

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