Snowden: Hero or Criminal?

[Levant]

That was Greenfield's boyfriend who got detained, not Snowden's.

Got a link?  I tried Googling but couldn't find a story.

[RocketMan]

Got a link?  I tried Googling but couldn't find a story.

Here are a few, here and here and here.

[Levant]

Holy crap!  Clearly no justification for a terrorism charge in the UK and yet they hold him for 9 hours.  That's what we can expect in the UK or the US - except in the US they can hold you forever, KGB style.

And the US had nothing to do with it?  Really?  The British police weren't trying to help their American comrades?  I'll never believe that it wasn't at the request of the US.  Even if it was not, it's just plain sad that these things happen in what we used to know as free countries.

[RevDisk]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/19/david-miranda-schedule7-danger-reporters

They're making direct threats at the newspaper. Which likely means someone thinks they have more damaging things they can release.

[Scout26]

Der Speigel reports that the NSA was breaking into and bugging UN offices in NYC.

Turns out while tapping the video feeds and others, they discovered that the ChiCom'shad already done the same !!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh yeah, we're bugging/tapping/stealing their computer info of/electronic spying on our EU allies also. 

[RevDisk]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/secret-nsa-documents-show-how-the-us-spies-on-europe-and-the-un-a-918625.html

Codename 'Apalachee'



Also, Germany is suspending trade talks.

Technically, this is a violation of many international agreements, and could theoretically nullify the diplomatic status of many of our embassies. If true, of course.

[Scout26]

Crap I forgot to add the Der Speigel link.   

Thanks Rev for covering for my mistake.    

[roo_ster]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/secret-nsa-documents-show-how-the-us-spies-on-europe-and-the-un-a-918625.html

Codename 'Apalachee'



Also, Germany is suspending trade talks.

Technically, this is a violation of many international agreements, and could theoretically nullify the diplomatic status of many of our embassies. If true, of course.

It only matters (to us.gov) if they can make it stick.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melian_dialogue

...for we both alike know that into the discussion of human affairs the question of justice only enters where the pressure of necessity is equal, and that the powerful exact what they can, and the weak grant what they must.

Is it unpatriotic of me to sort of hope they (Germany & others) can? (Make it stick.)

[Scout26]

It's truly sad that despite listening in to, pretty much the world, our Foreign Policy is a freakin' train wreck. 

[SADShooter]

It's truly sad that despite listening in to, pretty much the world, our Foreign Policy is a freakin' train wreck. 

Good information still requires a decision-maker applying intellectual/moral consistency to be of effective use...

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

hero?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/30/snowden-trove-foreign-hands-includes-58000-highly-/
British officials said Friday that the trove of documents taken by National Security Agency leaker Edward J. Snowden, which it seized earlier this week at Heathrow airport, contains more than 58,000 “highly classified UK intelligence documents,” which the government now assumes are in foreign hands.

Oliver Robbins, the deputy national security adviser for intelligence, security and resilience in the Cabinet Office, told a court in London that Mr. Snowden “indiscriminately appropriated material in bulk,” including personal information that would allow British intelligence staff, some serving overseas, to be identified.

SEE ALSO: NSA collected thousands of U.S. communications

The 58,000 documents were among 60 gigabytes of encrypted data seized from David Miranda during a nine hour detention under special terrorism powers Sun

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/30/snowden-trove-foreign-hands-includes-58000-highly-/#ixzz2dUSKyrjY
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

[MicroBalrog]

Lacks Torrent link.

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

hero?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/30/snowden-trove-foreign-hands-includes-58000-highly-/
British officials said Friday that the trove of documents taken by National Security Agency leaker Edward J. Snowden, which it seized earlier this week at Heathrow airport, contains more than 58,000 “highly classified UK intelligence documents,” which the government now assumes are in foreign hands.

Oliver Robbins, the deputy national security adviser for intelligence, security and resilience in the Cabinet Office, told a court in London that Mr. Snowden “indiscriminately appropriated material in bulk,” including personal information that would allow British intelligence staff, some serving overseas, to be identified.

SEE ALSO: NSA collected thousands of U.S. communications

The 58,000 documents were among 60 gigabytes of encrypted data seized from David Miranda during a nine hour detention under special terrorism powers Sun

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/30/snowden-trove-foreign-hands-includes-58000-highly-/#ixzz2dUSKyrjY
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

He's running from the US gov't. If he didn't have an insurance policy, I'd be surprised.

[RevDisk]

hero?

More I hear, more I'm leaning that direction. Smart guy, doling out the leaks one at a time. Keeps it in the news cycle. Even if the politicians ensure the NSA suffers no legal or budgetary repercussions, folks will remember. It tarnishes the reputation of the NSA, and maybe makes folks be a little more secure.