Supreme Court upholds illegal aliens' right to vote in AZ

[zxcvbob]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/17/19003391-supreme-court-strikes-down-arizona-law-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-to-vote?lite

[SADShooter]

"I'm a Citizen. Promise!" A Very Serious Oaf

[RocketMan]

The SCOTUS has finally confirmed what many of us have long suspected, that American citizenship no longer has any value.

[longeyes]

The endgame of deconstructing the core of America will be the deconstruction of those in power.  Those who delegitimize citizenship and the rule of law delegitimize themselves, their authority.

Arizona was just doing the job the Federal government won't do.  All this does is widen the growing existential chasm between central government and We the People.

[Tallpine]

Funny, a year or so back they made me re-do all my I-9 paperwork to stay employed, even though they had all that from 2007   

 

[kgbsquirrel]

"Yo soy un ciudadano, lo prometo!" A Very Serious Oaf

FIFY.

[Viking]

Seriously, I don't get this. Even the nuttiest countries in Europe don't go for *expletive deleted*it like this. WHY?

[zxcvbob]

Funny, a year or so back they made me re-do all my I-9 paperwork to stay employed, even though they had all that from 2007   

 

That's because you're not an illegal.

[Tallpine]

That's because you're not an illegal.

Well, technically I don't think any of my ancestors got official permission when they came over from Ireland and/or Scotland in the 18th Century 

[Scout26]

Well, technically I don't think any of my ancestors got official permission when they came over from Ireland and/or Scotland in the 18th Century 

Actually, they probably did.  IIRC, if they came over on one of the immigrant ships, then they were processed and given citizenship when they landed. 

[MechAg94]

But they let stand the traffic stop part.  Not sure that means much without the other. 

[Frank Castle]

I got a idea , can we get I.C.E to hang out at the voting areas?

[SADShooter]

I got a idea , can we get I.C.E to hang out at the voting areas?

Only if they start recruiting from NBPP.

[Doggy Daddy]

I got a idea , can we get I.C.E to hang out at the voting areas?

I'm sure they would claim that was "chilling".

[freakazoid]

I'm sure they would claim that was "chilling".

 

[Tallpine]

Actually, they probably did.  IIRC, if they came over on one of the immigrant ships, then they were processed and given citizenship when they landed. 

citizenship 

At least one fought in the revolutionary army so it wouldn't be USA citizenship 

I haven't been able to find the records.

[RoadKingLarry]

And, there goes the republic.

[Scout26]

citizenship 

At least one fought in the revolutionary army so it wouldn't be USA citizenship 

I haven't been able to find the records.

Ahhh, then they would have been "subjects".   

[Frank Castle]

Arizona to defy US Supreme Court decision

Go Arizona !!!

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/22615267/arizona-to-defy-us-supreme-court-decision

[Gowen]

What is left when the government prevents us from peaceably protesting through voting?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Arizona to defy US Supreme Court decision

Go Arizona !!!

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/22615267/arizona-to-defy-us-supreme-court-decision

Good article.  Bet many folk won't read it.  Kinda interesting the Medicaid expansion Brewer signed off on. Contrast.

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[Tallpine]

What is left when the government prevents us from peaceably protesting through voting?

What did we do last time?

[T.O.M.]

Bad thread title.  I just read the opinion. SCOTUS is saying that the state law was in violation of the federal election laws.  But, if you read it well, it implies that the federal laws suck, so they should be changed. It said nothing at all about allowing illegals to vote.  Never even came close to that issue.  Nothing to see here.  Still need to be a citizen to legally vote.  Arizona just needs to work a little harder to get the law to properly address the issue. 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Bad thread title.  I just read the opinion. SCOTUS is saying that the state law was in violation of the federal election laws.  But, if you read it well, it implies that the federal laws suck, so they should be changed. It said nothing at all about allowing illegals to vote.  Never even came close to that issue.  Nothing to see here.  Still need to be a citizen to legally vote.  Arizona just needs to work a little harder to get the law to properly address the issue. 

uh oh!  someone actually read the ruling
kill joy

[kgbsquirrel]

Bad thread title.  I just read the opinion. SCOTUS is saying that the state law was in violation of the federal election laws.  But, if you read it well, it implies that the federal laws suck, so they should be changed. It said nothing at all about allowing illegals to vote.  Never even came close to that issue.  Nothing to see here.  Still need to be a citizen to legally vote.  Arizona just needs to work a little harder to get the law to properly address the issue. 

And who gives a flying frack about "federal election laws?" As I seem to recall the only powers the federal government has are those delegated it in the Constitution, so lets take a look at what the Constitution has to say on the matter...

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 1: The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.

Fifteenth Amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Seventeenth Amendment: The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures. When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

Nineteenth Amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Twenty-Fourth Amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

Twenty-Sixth Amendment: The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age.

Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

Funny, perhaps it's my public education acting up, but the way I read it only the States are given leave to set requirements for voting, not the Federal government.