Ariel Castro found dead in his cell

[vaskidmark]

[scratches head] Did this person tie their ankles and their neck to the same point? Or what?

With determination, you can lean into it.

Even in well thought out isolation cells that have solid doors instead of bars, a toilet/sink combo that relies on pushbuttons instead of handles/levers, and lighting fixtures and sprinkler heads designed to break away at something just just barely above a slight breeze, there are places you can hook a rope to.

Or, as you might have unknowingly suggested, hogtieing oneself can be a (pardon the pun) viable option.

Constant video monitoring only helps if someone actually watches the video.  5-minute suicide checks are about three minutes too long, considering how long it will take to assemble the staff necesssary to go into the cell.

stay safe.

[T.O.M.]

[scratches head] Did this person tie their ankles and their neck to the same point? Or what?

Saw a young woman in court custody take her bra, get it caught up in the bench in the holding cell, tie the other end around her neck, and laid under the bench.  Managed to cut off her air supply enough to pass out.  In enough time (she was found in about 5minutes), shè might have managed it.

On the bad news front, sounds like his family found an ambulance chaser, and they're making noise about suing..,

[Tallpine]

Saw a young woman in court custody take her bra, get it caught up in the bench in the holding cell, tie the other end around her neck, and laid under the bench.  Managed to cut off her air supply enough to pass out.  In enough time (she was found in about 5minutes), shè might have managed it.

On the bad news front, sounds like his family found an ambulance chaser, and they're making noise about suing..,

I think the blood supply gets reduced enough to pass out before ever going into distress over not breathing.

So it's really not at all that hard to do.

[Ned Hamford]

I think this should be tossed up here...

[GigaBuist]

I think the blood supply gets reduced enough to pass out before ever going into distress over not breathing.

So it's really not at all that hard to do.

Yep.  Lack of oxygen does not cause the body to freak out and go for air.  It's the build up of carbonic acid in the blood stream from too much C02 in you.  Cut the blood to the brain and you'll pass out before you freak out and go into survival mode.

Had a cousin die from hanging with her butt 6" off the floor.  Uncommon sexual activity may or may not have been involved.  Probably was.  Nobody knows if there was a second person present. Never will.

[makattak]

Speaking from experience, I kinda suspect he didn't really hang himself.
I also believe "nobody saw nuthin'."

Not any experience, just cold logic told me this.

He plea bargains to avoid the death penalty and then kills himself within a month?

I find that unlikely.

[Hawkmoon]

On the bad news front, sounds like his family found an ambulance chaser, and they're making noise about suing..,

This would be the same family that said -- in public and for the record -- that he was an evil person and they wanted nothing to do with him? THAT family?

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

A great loss to humanity.

[Ned Hamford]

This would be the same family that said -- in public and for the record -- that he was an evil person and they wanted nothing to do with him? THAT family?

Its the principle of the thing.   

[T.O.M.]

Its the principle of the thing.   

Nah, it's SHOW ME THE MONEY time!

[Balog]

Nah, it's SHOW ME THE MONEY time!

"I might be able to get some money I didn't earn" is about the most principled many people get.

[RocketMan]

Maybe someone was thinking of the taxpayers.