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People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« on: October 03, 2013, 04:02:00 PM »
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/10/03/belgiums-disturbing-euthanasia-epidemic/

Death by euthanasia now makes up %2 of all mortality in Belgium.  :O
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 04:11:24 PM »
Didn't I read a Ray Bradbury or Kurt Vonnegut story about this, way back when the left still said it respected life?

Also, I must give them credit for decisiveness.  No waffling about.
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2013, 04:27:19 PM »
You are possibly thinking of 'Welcome to the Monkey House' by Vonnegut.  I am racking my brain and I cannot think of a Bradbury story that dealt with euthanasia.
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 04:30:29 PM »
Once you've sampled all the world's best chocolate, learned that Hercule Poirot was really a fictional character, and spent years eating mayo on your frites, what's left to live for?
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2013, 04:34:08 PM »
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/10/03/belgiums-disturbing-euthanasia-epidemic/

Death by euthanasia now makes up %2 of all mortality in Belgium.  :O

I don't want to die like some others I've seen. Thankfully, I have good friends that would handle er, arrangements if I physically could not.

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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 04:44:10 PM »
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2013, 05:37:33 PM »
You are possibly thinking of 'Welcome to the Monkey House' by Vonnegut.  I am racking my brain and I cannot think of a Bradbury story that dealt with euthanasia.

Maybe so.

They had suicide parlors, everyone except the suicide rebels took drugs to numb them below the waist, folks were encouraged to off themselves.  The story was of a suicide rebel who was infiltrating/destroying such a parlor or some such.
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 06:02:44 PM »
And so long as it's voluntary why should we care again?

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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2013, 06:53:20 PM »
We seem to have trouble with youthinusa in some areas.   Shouldn't they have more trouble with youthineurope?

I am trying to imagine commercialized suicide in the US.  What kind of Superbowl commercials would we see?  "It's my death, and I want it now!!"
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2013, 07:17:23 PM »
Will it be possible to buy a suicide as a gift for someone?

Wait!  It's the mob that offers those. :-X

Regarding the Belgians - how many more times do you think they can stand having the Germans getting mud all overe the living room carpet on their way to France?  With the Swiss gearing up national defense exercises based on the scenario of broke, hungry French trying to swarm across the borders to escape from economic collapse, it seems prudent to start exspecting the Germans to start rehearsing their favorite marching songs.

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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2013, 09:23:40 PM »
I like their beer...it's to die for.

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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2013, 09:31:11 PM »
With the Swiss gearing up national defense exercises based on the scenario of broke, hungry French trying to swarm across the borders to escape from economic collapse, it seems prudent to start exspecting the Germans to start rehearsing their favorite marching songs.

Ok, am I the only one who envisioned an army of zombie pastry chefs saying "augh, augh, augh" crossing the snowy Alps, treading on their own frozen fallen like a gray carpet of crunchy flesh?

Also, the Belgians do share a border with the Dutch.

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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2013, 09:47:54 PM »
I want to die peacefully in my sleep like grandpa did.
Not screaming and yelling in panic like the passengers in his car.

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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2013, 11:11:27 PM »
I want to die peacefully in my sleep like grandpa did.
Not screaming and yelling in panic like the passengers in his car.

Or

I want to go out the same way I came into this world
Screaming, and covered in someone elses blood.

I want to go out like my great-grandfather.
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2013, 11:20:00 PM »
I want my death to be sudden & quick....like the spider crawling in MrsSmith's bedsheets tonight....


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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2013, 11:25:32 PM »
I want my death to be sudden & quick....like the spider crawling in MrsSmith's bedsheets tonight....


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Which one?  There are hundreds, if not thousands.  Many will live to crawl the next day.

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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2013, 09:30:52 AM »
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2013/10/03/belgiums-disturbing-euthanasia-epidemic/

Death by euthanasia now makes up %2 of all mortality in Belgium.  :O
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2013, 09:34:25 AM »
And so long as it's voluntary why should we care again?



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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2013, 10:23:25 AM »
Because ZOMG the biblez!
Yes, because the "biblez!" is the only thing standing in the way of libertarian paradise.   ;/

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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2013, 10:32:12 AM »
Also, the Belgians do share a border with the Dutch.

I always get those two (or is it three?) confused.  :facepalm:
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2013, 11:29:25 AM »
Because ZOMG the biblez!

Just statists (of a different flavor) trying to enforce their will on those who do not hold the same beliefs a them.
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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2013, 06:11:52 PM »
Yes, because the "biblez!" is the only thing standing in the way of libertarian paradise.   ;/

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Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2013, 06:32:02 PM »
Because ZOMG the biblez!

Just statists (of a different flavor) trying to enforce their will on those who do not hold the same beliefs a them.

Socialists don't hold the copywrite on statism. 

I think I sprained something from rolling my eyes so hard at this. Obviously the only possible reason to be opposed to a society embracing euthanasia wholesale is evil evil religious fundamentalism. And disapproving of something is the same as being a statist, because everyone knows if you're a Christian and dislike something that means you want .gov regulation against it.

Don't worry though, in spite of my bitterly clinging to my Bible I'm still fully supportive of allowing rank bigotry like this to remain legal.
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Re: Re: People in Belgium killing themselves more than ever
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2013, 05:13:51 AM »
I wonder what the real stats for the usa are. I know i saw some surveys of med professionals where like 30% admitted helping someone end it

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