Dallas PD lied about shooting of mentally ill man (On Video) Title Edited

[Sergeant Bob]

Uh-oh: surveillance camera shows Dallas PD lied about shooting of mentally ill man

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Today, Cardan Spencer and Christopher Watson are officers with the Dallas Police Department. If there is any justice at all in Texas courts, they will soon be prison inmates:
Family and friends of a mentally ill Rylie man want answers after a Dallas police officer shot him for no apparent reason Monday in broad daylight outside his home.
A police report says that Officer Cardan Spencer fired on Bobby Gerald Bennett, 52, after Bennett walked toward him and his partner with a “knife raised in an aggressive manner.”
But a neighbor’s video surveillance camera recording shows something different: It shows Bennett, who was seated in a chair, initially rolling back from officers as they advance on him. Bennett then stands up but does not move. His hands remain at his side and he is standing still when Spencer shoots him, firing his service weapon four times.
Bennett remained in the intensive care unit of a Dallas hospital Thursday after being shot in the abdomen.
Spencer and Watson were unaware of the surveillance camera, and claimed that Bennett was advancing upon them with a knife, which the video clearly shows not to be true.
The gunned a man down, and tried to lie about it. There is no place in law enforcement for men such as these.

It looks to me like like they shot shot someone who was no threat to them and then lied about it. At least they got to go home that night.

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[AZRedhawk44]

[csd]
serves em right. should have ran away when cops arrived. didnt kowtow deep enough.
[/csd]

There's been a spate of these situations where video evidence shows cops to be raw liars.

Seems prudent to video record any and all interactions with police.

[AmbulanceDriver]

Well, not quite murder yet....  At least everything I've read says vic is still alive.  But 4 rounds to the gut, that could be a bit dicey.  

Nonetheless, at this point in time they should be charged with attempted murder.  With a possible upgrading of charges if their victim does die.  

Along with a whole other slew of charges relating to lying about the incident

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

They are probably in more trouble over the lies.
If they told the truth their punishment would be administrative.


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[Regolith]

They are probably in more trouble over the lies.
If they told the truth their punishment would be administrative.


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So, it's cool that they tried to outright murder someone, but that they LIED about it, that's a problem.

[zxcvbob]

So, it's cool that they tried to outright murder someone, but that they LIED about it, that's a problem.

Not cool, just realistic.

[MechAg94]

Yeah, they might have claimed something else or some mistake and got protected.  Lying like that means they didn't think they could cover it up and anything they try to say now is suspect.

[geronimotwo]

[heavy sarcasm] suspend them with pay! [sarcasm]

[cordex]

Sure doesn't look good, and lying about it to try to cover it up makes it many times worse.

The guy got up aggressively, but in that scenario (assuming we have sufficient details) given the distances and times involved, even a taser deployment would have been overkill.

[Jamisjockey]

So, it's cool that they tried to outright murder someone, but that they LIED about it, that's a problem.

Our resident LEO apologist is cool with it.  You should be, too.

[MechAg94]

I hope there is enough pressure to actually force the Dallas DA to prosecute. 

[roo_ster]

I hope there is enough pressure to actually force the Dallas DA to prosecute. 

Is the dude who was shot rich?  The DA has a rep for charging folks at the behest of big money donors.

[Hawkmoon]

The guy got up aggressively, but in that scenario (assuming we have sufficient details) given the distances and times involved, even a taser deployment would have been overkill.

How does one "Get up aggressively"? He stood up -- and then he stood there until they shot him. He didn't move his right hand. The video was too fuzzy for me to see if he moved or lifted his left hand. He sure as heck didn't move aggressively toward them.

Another example of how 98 percent of cops give the rest a bad name.

[Sergeant Bob]

Well, not quite murder yet....  At least everything I've read says vic is still alive.  But 4 rounds to the gut, that could be a bit dicey.  

Nonetheless, at this point in time they should be charged with attempted murder.  With a possible upgrading of charges if their victim does die.  

Along with a whole other slew of charges relating to lying about the incident

Thanks, wasn't paying enough attention when I put in the title.

[kgbsquirrel]

[csd]
serves em right. should have ran away when cops arrived. didnt kowtow deep enough.
[/csd]

There's been a spate of these situations where video evidence shows cops to be raw liars.

Seems prudent to video record any and all interactions with police.

[csd]
Video recorded your police encounter? You were obviously looking for trouble and/or trying to bait the cops.
[/csd]

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

So, it's cool that they tried to outright murder someone, but that they LIED about it, that's a problem.

outright murder? really?
thats a bit of a reach even for you.
what i can see,not to be confused with fantasize, cop screwed up.
i think he imagined a move or even used bad trigger discipline. bad shoot
thet lies are a real problem even moreso for the cop who didn't shoot.
i presume they are union?


damn phone

[cordex]

How does one "Get up aggressively"? He stood up -- and then he stood there until they shot him. He didn't move his right hand. The video was too fuzzy for me to see if he moved or lifted his left hand. He sure as heck didn't move aggressively toward them.

He didn't just stand up, he jumped out of the chair.  I could see that being interpreted as an aggressive move.  If i were talking to someone and they sprang from a chair like that i would consider it to be aggressive.  However, given the apparent distance to the officers and the fact that be stood still afterward there was no immediate threat or reason to go lethal.

Another example of how 98 percent of cops give the rest a bad name.

This makes as much sense as the people who point at news stories of bad gun owners and saying the same sort of thing about us. Beyond ignorant.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

oops just really read the link. they may both walj. i'd need to see rheir actual. statements to know. the dangers of internet journalism. the story quoted a police report not thosr two cops statements. if someone other than them "gilded the lilly" it could go back to a bad shoot and admistrative punishment, or less. when was the shooting?

damn phone

[Tallpine]

He didn't just stand up, he jumped out of the chair.  I could see that being interpreted as an aggressive move.  If i were talking to someone and they sprang from a chair like that i would consider it to be aggressive. 

Try shooting them on that basis and see how it works out for you 


Just as a note: I can sorta see why some people want to ban guns just based on how armed  cops (re)act to slight provocation. 

[Gowen]

outright murder? really?
thats a bit of a reach even for you.
what i can see,not to be confused with fantasize, cop screwed up.
i think he imagined a move or even used bad trigger discipline. bad shoot
thet lies are a real problem even moreso for the cop who didn't shoot.
i presume they are union?


damn phone

You shoot someone and see what you get charged with, odds are it would be 1st or 2nd degree murder.  Just because a cop does it, doesn't make it man slaughter, the gun didn't jump into his hand and pull its own trigger. 

[Hawkmoon]

He didn't just stand up, he jumped out of the chair.  I could see that being interpreted as an aggressive move. 

Sorry, I have to disagree. I just watched it again after reading your post and I would definitely NOT call what he did "jumping out of the chair." He stood up, he did not "jump out of the chair" -- and then he did NOT make any move toward the cops.

[Gowen]

After looking at the video, he rolled back first when they got out of the car and then stood up.  There wasn't anything I would have taken as a threat. 

[zxcvbob]

[sarcasm]Police randomly shooting people, out of incompetence or malice, is just the price we pay for them keeping us safe[/sarcasm]  As long as it's not you or anyone you know that's the victim, what's the problem?  

Unfortunately, too many DA's, grand juries, etc. think that way.

[Tallpine]

I guess that's what happens when you operate an un-registered and un-insured office chair on a public street 


Further thoughts I'd best keep to myself.

[Sindawe]

Further thoughts I'd best keep to myself.

Same here.