Chicago PD is a criminal organization

[Balog]

Cop drinks "several beers" before duty, mistakes a man's cell phone for a gun, shoots the man several times. Man falls down, as he's lying facedown on the ground bleeding cop shoots him in the back 3 more times. All of this is clearly caught on video. 

Cop is not tested for alcohol for hours, making it unclear if he was legally drunk at the time of the incident. This was the cop's 3rd shooting in a few month period, the second fatal. He was not charged with a crime for any of them.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-10-22/news/ct-met-police-involved-shootings-1023-20111022_1_three-shootings-flint-farmer-gildardo-sierra

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-12-21/news/ct-met-cop-fatal-shooting-alcohol-20121221_1_officer-gildardo-sierra-flint-farmer-police-officer

[RoadKingLarry]

Well, at least he got to go home that night.

[vaskidmark]

Obviously what is needed is a law against carrying cell phones in public.  Who needs a cell phone when there is a pay phone on almost every corner?

(The fact that The War on Some Drugs is responsible for almost all open air pay phones being yanked has nothing to do with this.  Stop trying to insert logic into the discussion.)

stay safe.

[RoadKingLarry]

Obviously what is needed is a law against carrying cell phones in public.  Who needs a cell phone when there is a pay phone on almost every corner?

(The fact that The War on Some Drugs is responsible for almost all open air pay phones being yanked has nothing to do with this.  Stop trying to insert logic into the discussion.)

stay safe.

As to pay phones, it's more a money issue. As in there just isn't any in that market anymore. Cell phones have pretty well killed the profit.

[Sergeant Bob]

McCarthy told the Tribune the previous administration failed to recognize a pattern in police shootings and had no mechanism to track if officers were repeatedly involved in shootings.

What frakking kind of mechanism do they need!? How did the newspaper track it? I guess they have a "mechanism".

[fifth_column]

Sierra fired 16 shots at Farmer, hitting him seven times, autopsy reports show

Gotta love that cop accuracy . . .

[Tallpine]

Chicago PD is a criminal organization

And this is news 

 

[Gowen]

The only reason they took down Capone is the mayor and police dept. didn't like the competition.

[Fly320s]

Gotta love that cop accuracy . . .

Pretty good for a drunk cop.

[HankB]

Expect a gun writer and firearms expert with the initials M.A. will soon be weighing in to justify the cop's actions . . .

[Balog]

I think even CSD would have a hard time justifying "Cop who's been drinking shoots an incapacitated, unarmed man laying facedown on the ground" but I've been wrong before.

[Gowen]

I think even CSD would have a hard time justifying "Cop who's been drinking shoots an incapacitated, unarmed man laying facedown on the ground" but I've been wrong before.

Even the Gestapo had it's blind supporters.

[RevDisk]

I think even CSD would have a hard time justifying "Cop who's been drinking shoots an incapacitated, unarmed man laying facedown on the ground" but I've been wrong before.

$1 says he easily justifies it.

"He was laying facedown in order to get a superior tactical position, cleverly bleeding out to reduce law enforcement traction and then surprise attack if the cop didn't shoot him first in self-defense."

[AZRedhawk44]

Expect a gun writer and firearms expert with the initials M.A. will soon be weighing in to justify the cop's actions . . .

hehe.

[makattak]

I think even CSD would have a hard time justifying "Cop who's been drinking shoots an incapacitated, unarmed man laying facedown on the ground" but I've been wrong before.

$1 says he easily justifies it.

"He was laying facedown in order to get a superior tactical position, cleverly bleeding out to reduce law enforcement traction and then surprise attack if the cop didn't shoot him first in self-defense."

Come on now, guys. Is that the best you can do? I pride myself in knowing my opponent's positions before they can proffer them.

C&SD (should he think this is a good shoot) would begin by saying that we aren't getting the full story. (He's usually right about that. The only part where I sometimes disagree is whether the additional information does justify the officer's actions.)

He would then go on to post one or more other versions of the story from another point of view.




Now, having grown up in Illinois, and being familiar with the Chicago PD, I am fully willing to accept this story as it fits with my impressions of the "professionalism" of the Chicago police.

[freakazoid]

$1 says he easily justifies it.

"He was laying facedown in order to get a superior tactical position, cleverly bleeding out to reduce law enforcement traction and then surprise attack if the cop didn't shoot him first in self-defense."


Come on now, guys. Is that the best you can do? I pride myself in knowing my opponent's positions before they can proffer them.

C&SD (should he think this is a good shoot) would begin by saying that we aren't getting the full story. (He's usually right about that. The only part where I sometimes disagree is whether the additional information does justify the officer's actions.)

He would then go on to post one or more other versions of the story from another point of view.




Now, having grown up in Illinois, and being familiar with the Chicago PD, I am fully willing to accept this story as it fits with my impressions of the "professionalism" of the Chicago police.

Sometimes I wonder if he is simply playing devils advocate.

[Sergeant Bob]

Sometimes I wonder if he is simply playing devils advocate.

I think Balog nailed it in one of his posts.

[Pharmacology]

>MFW  I  know he will eventually post a bunch of vague theoreticals in defense of this cop.

[RevDisk]

Come on now, guys. Is that the best you can do? I pride myself in knowing my opponent's positions before they can proffer them.

C&SD (should he think this is a good shoot) would begin by saying that we aren't getting the full story. (He's usually right about that. The only part where I sometimes disagree is whether the additional information does justify the officer's actions.)

He would then go on to post one or more other versions of the story from another point of view.

Now, having grown up in Illinois, and being familiar with the Chicago PD, I am fully willing to accept this story as it fits with my impressions of the "professionalism" of the Chicago police.

I concur. We're not getting the full story. But if one of us shot someone in the back three ish times while they were laying on the ground, we're spending a hundred thousand easily on the trial. That's kinda one of those things that is hard to handwave away. "Shooting person while they are down and out of action" is generally a no-shoot situation.

I actually know a former Chicago PD officer. He says the perception of corruption is true, but somewhat exaggerated in scope. Not every officer is corrupt, but there are more than a few. Internal Affairs allegedly had the dirtest cops.   

[cordex]

I concur. We're not getting the full story. But if one of us shot someone in the back three ish times while they were laying on the ground, we're spending a hundred thousand easily on the trial. That's kinda one of those things that is hard to handwave away. "Shooting person while they are down and out of action" is generally a no-shoot situation.

This exactly.

[Tallpine]

if you had such a dangerous job as a cop you would drink too

 

[Scout26]

The only reason they took down Capone is the mayor and police dept. didn't like the competition.

Feds took him down, not the locals.

[makattak]

Feds took him down, not the locals.

Yep, locals were on his staff.