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Re: Speaking of Edumakation
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2014, 09:50:04 PM »
My wife's definition of 'teaching to the test', which she says is shared by most of her colleagues:  teaching the kids the possible questions and answers for a specific section of the standardized test.  In other words, the teacher does not know that a question will ask about the capital of Canada, but may know that a common geography question is name the capital of a country in North America.  You don't know which equation, numbers or operations will be on the test but know that the math section usually has questions about how to solve an equation with a certain sequence of operations.  Or the Language Arts section will likely have a question about how to write a topic sentence.

She says teaching to the test will be much more difficult with the Common Core Smarter Balance Assessment since it will be given by computer and the test questions will get more or less difficult depending on how you answer a given question.  The material being tested on will be much broader and there are thousands of possible questions for any one grade level for all the subjects.  She is on some sort of national taskforce that is writing questions for the Smarter Balance Assessment, which is intended to be a nationwide test.

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Re: Re: Re: Speaking of Edumakation
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2014, 09:01:44 AM »
Because I'm talking about the ones here in Chicago, perchance?  And my conversations and observations with my employees who sent their kids to Chicago Catholic schools?

So we're using the greater distance for better vision and smaller sample for better accuracy model?! Gotcha

I am stuck with knowing folk who can't get their kid in or having them "not invited back" thats the way the Catholic schools here phrase it. They unlike public schools cull truly disruptive kids since they are not required by law to educate em. Nor do they fear some gov twit will ding em if they aren't disciplining them with thr correct percentages of various ethnic groups represented

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Re: Speaking of Edumakation
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2014, 09:14:37 AM »
My wife's definition of 'teaching to the test', which she says is shared by most of her colleagues:  teaching the kids the possible questions and answers for a specific section of the standardized test.  In other words, the teacher does not know that a question will ask about the capital of Canada, but may know that a common geography question is name the capital of a country in North America.  You don't know which equation, numbers or operations will be on the test but know that the math section usually has questions about how to solve an equation with a certain sequence of operations.  Or the Language Arts section will likely have a question about how to write a topic sentence.

She says teaching to the test will be much more difficult with the Common Core Smarter Balance Assessment since it will be given by computer and the test questions will get more or less difficult depending on how you answer a given question.  The material being tested on will be much broader and there are thousands of possible questions for any one grade level for all the subjects.  She is on some sort of national taskforce that is writing questions for the Smarter Balance Assessment, which is intended to be a nationwide test.

That sounds to me like the problem isn't "teaching to the test" but too much prior information about the test being available. Hopefully the assessment test you mention in your second paragraph will avoid this problem.
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2014, 09:39:19 AM »
Part of the trouble is the test is the sword of damacles. Careers hinge on results and the process has flaws. Many of which are typical of what happens when folks plan globally and the plans fail at taking into account reality

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It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Speaking of Edumakation
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2014, 11:24:05 AM »
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Re: Speaking of Edumakation
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2014, 11:41:36 AM »
its a start

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It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Speaking of Edumakation
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2014, 01:05:17 PM »
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Re: Re: Re: Speaking of Edumakation
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2014, 03:20:59 PM »
So we're using the greater distance for better vision and smaller sample for better accuracy model?! Gotcha


Reading is fundamental.  If you go back and look you'll see that I referred only to Chicago Catholic schools.  Not the schools in your area nor anywhere else.   You're have decided that what you see in your area applies to everywhere.

I do know that my sister sent her daughters to a Catholic High School in Indianapolis (Turns out to be one the top rated ones in Indiana) and that there was some competition to get them in.  But being a lawyer and able to pay full boat on tuition might have helped sway the school's decision making.  Both of them also got full ride scholarships to Indiana Unnversity after graduation, so they weren't dummies or trouble makers going in.   
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