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Considering committing heresy
« on: March 03, 2014, 02:00:51 PM »
So.........    I've got a Colt 1991-A1 that I've had for probably 12 years.   It's my EDC gun, and I really do enjoy it.   But I find myself being inexorably drawn to the Springfield XD line.   My younger brother has one, I believe the XDs...   

While my 1911 does fit my hand well, and I can shoot it well, it's hardly perfect.   Probably the biggest limitation being the magazine size.  I use the 8 round Wilson Combat mags, which are extremely reliable in my gun with my ammo choice.   I don't shoot my 1911 competitively, but I would like to get into some shooting games, such as IDPA, IPSC, or PPC. 

The single biggest attachment I have to the 1911 is emotional.   I mean, it's a 1911.  It's steel, with a little bit of rubber and plastic.  Damn near bulletproof, but the design is 100 years old.  Obviously updates and refinements have been made over the decades, and it *is* a good gun.

But herein lies the heresy.   Talked to my LGS today.   And I could pretty much trade my 1911 straight across for an XD.  Admittedly, I could save up for a bit and work a couple extra OT shifts to pick one up for cash on the table, but......

So am I crazy?  Heretic?  Or finally bowing to the inevitable march of progress?
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2014, 02:10:36 PM »
I try to avoid emotional attachments to tools, unless there is some sort of family history associated with it. I say do the trade and see how you like the XD.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 02:15:18 PM »
I say work the extra time, pick up cans along the road or whatever and have both.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 02:24:31 PM »
I say work the extra time, pick up cans along the road or whatever and have both.

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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 02:31:22 PM »
I say work the extra time, pick up cans along the road or whatever and have both.
Yep.

Plus, a private sale would probably get you more out of your Colt than the XD would be new, so that might be a more cost-effective way of going if you do decide to get rid of it.

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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2014, 02:45:18 PM »
If you have a 1911 that you consider bullet proof, sounds like a keeper. I would try to shoot the plastic guns before jumping into them.  I find I naturally point the Glock 21 better than my XD pistols. 
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2014, 02:51:10 PM »
Keep it and get both. Almost every time I've sold a gun to get another I've regretted it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2014, 02:53:28 PM »
Keep it and get both. Almost every time I've sold a gun to get another I've regretted it.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2014, 03:14:39 PM »
Do you really want to be haunted by JMB's ghost?

And make THIS puppy cry:


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While my 1911 does fit my hand well, and I can shoot it well, it's hardly perfect.   Probably the biggest limitation being the magazine size.  I use the 8 round Wilson Combat mags, which are extremely reliable in my gun with my ammo choice.   I don't shoot my 1911 competitively, but I would like to get into some shooting games, such as IDPA, IPSC, or PPC.

Wilson makes 10-round mags for gun games.  You only need monster-capacity mags for Open & Limited Standard divisions for IPSC. Limited-10 Standard & Production IPSC are fine with 10 round mags (no 1911s or single action in Production).  Eight round mags are max for IDP CDP and Classic IPSC.

You are already 100% ready, gun & mag-wise, for IDPA CDP.

Note: IPSC & USPSA have some deltas I was unaware of.  Looks like you are 100% ready for Single Stack USPSA.  May be able to compete Limited-10 with Wilson 10-round mags.  You would need moster mags to be competitive in Limited and Open divisions.

http://www.uspsa.org/document_library/rules/2014/Feb%202014%20Handgun%20Rules.pdf

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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2014, 04:20:22 PM »
I say work the extra time, pick up cans along the road or whatever and have both.

Another vote for the above...plus when the little one gets there your income will be redirected to other expenses.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2014, 04:23:30 PM »
I sold a Glock 36 in 2003. I still think about selling a Glock 36 in 2003. =|
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2014, 04:37:17 PM »
Ok.  I'm convinced. 


No heresy.   :D   
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2014, 04:59:06 PM »
An example on the other side.  I saw a Springfield 1911 in 9mm last week.  Suddenly, I was thinking about looking for what I had to trade to get that 1911 in 9mm.  I have no use for another 9mm especially one I'll never carry, but I was thinking it anyway since it was a slick looking pistol. 

I ended up getting a Cimarron Frontier SAA in 357 instead.  Nice shooter.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2014, 05:10:16 PM »
Ok.  I'm convinced. 


No heresy.   :D   

Good. I would hate to have to stone you.

As much as I love my XD, I would never trade my 1911 for one.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2014, 05:22:32 PM »
Keep it and get both. Almost every time I've sold a gun to get another I've regretted it.

Ditto.

Foregone conclusion at this point, though.  Just chiming in.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2014, 05:38:29 PM »
So.........    I've got a Colt 1991-A1 that I've had for probably 12 years.

.....

But herein lies the heresy.   Talked to my LGS today.   And I could pretty much trade my 1911 straight across for an XD.  Admittedly, I could save up for a bit and work a couple extra OT shifts to pick one up for cash on the table, but......

So am I crazy?  Heretic?  Or finally bowing to the inevitable march of progress?

I like my XD quite a lot.  It works, bang every time, I hit what I shoot at.  But, no.  Don't do it.

And if you decide to go ahead, hey, I'll trade ya.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2014, 06:29:51 PM »
Sell it - to someone who wants a Colt 1911 more than you do.

And for crying out loud, get the rubber off of it. Yuck.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2014, 06:38:41 PM »
Sell it - to someone who wants a Colt 1911 more than you do.

And for crying out loud, get the rubber off of it. Yuck.

While I appreciate the genius of the original design by JMB [genuflect] I would posit it is not heresy to have the Hogue grips on there.  Mostly since they fit my hand like they were custom made...  That plus at the time that JMB [genuflect] designed the 1911, these types of grips were not available.

And yes, I'll agree that while a nice set of wooden grips on a 1911 are the epitome of beauty, there's something to be said for utility.  :)


And having been cleansed of the temptation to heresy of letting go of my 1911, I doubt I will be selling it.  It may eventually spend more time in the safe than in the holster, but then again, I have a child on the way now, and while it wasn't my first pistol, it may very well become their first pistol.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2014, 06:46:48 PM »
Yep, I'm not going to try to pretty the guy that's about to do me harm.  I wanted utilitarian functionality.  I also have a set of rubber grips on my stainless (not shiny stainless, but matte) 1991-A1.  With the finger grooves,  Pearce via Monkeyleg.  It fits me like a glove.


P.S.  If you do decide to sell yours, I'll give you $5 for it.  I mean it's used and you don't want it anymore, right?  =D :P
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2014, 07:03:11 PM »
Sell it - to someone who wants a Colt 1911 more than you do.

And for crying out loud, get the rubber off of it. Yuck.

Hougue's are awesome. I bought a set for Dad one Christmas, been meaning to get another set for my 1911. Got them on my m-19 too.
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2014, 09:12:05 PM »
I also have a 1991A1.

You should keep your 1911 and buy the XD. However, if you can only have one, then it should be the XD.

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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2014, 09:56:36 PM »
While I appreciate the genius of the original design by JMB [genuflect] I would posit it is not heresy to have the Hogue grips on there.  Mostly since they fit my hand like they were custom made...  That plus at the time that JMB [genuflect] designed the 1911, these types of grips were not available.

And yes, I'll agree that while a nice set of wooden grips on a 1911 are the epitome of beauty, there's something to be said for utility.  :)


And having been cleansed of the temptation to heresy of letting go of my 1911, I doubt I will be selling it.  It may eventually spend more time in the safe than in the holster, but then again, I have a child on the way now, and while it wasn't my first pistol, it may very well become their first pistol.

To be honest, I've been pondering some sacrilege, myself. I'd like to find out what a pair of brown or green VZs might look like on mine. Since I can't afford 'em right now, it's moot.

Oh, and I think heresy applies to matters of belief. Selling your 1911 would be more like sacrilege or apostasy.  =)



Yep, I'm not going to try to pretty the guy that's about to do me harm.  I wanted utilitarian functionality. 

Um, the grips aren't the killy part.  :P
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2014, 10:02:57 PM »
I also have a 1991A1.

You should keep your 1911 and buy the XD. However, if you can only have one, then it should be the XD.

1911s are like classic cars...they make great 2nd cars, but you need something practical first.


Errr... How is a 1911A1 impractical?

I'd say my Springfeild mil specs is equal to my XD, and that includes feeding hollowpoints when shooting the gun at odd angles...


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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2014, 10:05:10 PM »



Um, the grips aren't the killy part.  :P

Um, the grips help you keep control of the killy part :P
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Re: Considering committing heresy
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2014, 10:21:03 PM »

Errr... How is a 1911A1 impractical?


The same way wood grips are impractical, I guess.
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