Erf Day

[HankB]

Is coming up.   22 April to be precise.  What are your plans for this year's celebration?

Well, the TRADITIONAL way to celebrate Earth Day is to go to Washington D.C. and trash the national mall, leaving behind tons of filth, excrement, and random other garbage for SOMEONE ELSE to clean up.

[birdman]

I roughly figured 160 lb is about five minutes of flight time.  So pick five minutes up there and dedicate that to me.  Don't want to be hoggish about it.  Let others have a chance, too.

I was going to calc'late CO2 weight but said the hell with it.  Too many variables, too many assumptions have to be made.

Let's see, jet-A is a mix of C-8 to C-16 hydrocarbons, with 70% alliances and 25-30% aromatics, so let's say an average carbon number of 10, with 17 hydrogens, or a average molecular weight of about 140, when burned, that yields 9 Co2 molecules, with a molecular weight of 440, so to make the math easier, just assume its about a factor of 3 between mass of co2 and mass of jet-A.

Annoying footnote, the Raytheon travel system gives you the per passenger estimated co2 production for your flights when selecting travel options. :/

[Ben]

Well, it's a work day, so pretty much what I do every day to drive the office hippies bonkers. Throw recyclables in the trash, drink out of plastic water bottles, eat meat, etc.

My grand finale act of defiance before I retire next month is that I ordered the office an F-350 to replace a puny Silverado 1500. Coincidentally, I made the pick up appointment at the GSA facility in LA on 22APR. So I'll be polluting on the drive there and back, then driving it up to our loading doors where there's a "turn engine off" sign and revving for a while. :)

[erictank]

I'm accelerating a golf ball to 99.9995% c.  That's how Bridman does {insert planet name}-day.

Just point the accelerator some other direction than down. Or, I guess, at another body in this solar system.

I'm driving 200 miles to a power plant in PA on Erf Day. I just had my catalytic converter replaced - seems my model/year vehicle was prone to shedding pieces and blocking exhaust flow, etc. Happened to me, I ended up with an average of about 30HP at the wheels until I could get in to the dealer (Granted, it's a base-level Subaru 2.5L engine, but that's still ~1/4 of what should be going to the wheels). Warranty fix, but I also needed ~$750 of non-warranty stuff. Net result, my gas mileage went up. I guess that's good, but hardly in keeping with the APS Erf Day Theme.

[Boomhauer]

Just point the accelerator some other direction than down. Or, I guess, at another body in this solar system.

I'm driving 200 miles to a power plant in PA on Erf Day. I just had my catalytic converter replaced - seems my model/year vehicle was prone to shedding pieces and blocking exhaust flow, etc. Happened to me, I ended up with an average of about 30HP at the wheels until I could get in to the dealer (Granted, it's a base-level Subaru 2.5L engine, but that's still ~1/4 of what should be going to the wheels). Warranty fix, but I also needed ~$750 of non-warranty stuff. Net result, my gas mileage went up. I guess that's good, but hardly in keeping with the APS Erf Day Theme.

My catalytic convertor is completely missing...previous owner had it taken out. Unfortunately, PO also replaced the stock stainless steel exhaust system with a cheap ass Flowmaster so it's rusted out and I need to replace it because now that the muffler is not so muffling it is a little too loud (especially for long trips)

[birdman]

Just point the accelerator some other direction than down. Or, I guess, at another body in this solar system.

Come on, its only a relative yield of 24 megatons.  Sheesh.

[erictank]

Come on, its only a relative yield of 24 megatons.  Sheesh.

Was feeling lazy and didn't want to do the math.

Okay, feel free to point it straight down, if you'd like. 

[Fly320s]

I roughly figured 160 lb is about five minutes of flight time.  So pick five minutes up there and dedicate that to me.  Don't want to be hoggish about it.  Let others have a chance, too.

I was going to calc'late CO2 weight but said the hell with it.  Too many variables, too many assumptions have to be made.

83lbs/minute. I'll throw in the extra three minutes just for you.

[Triphammer]

Annoying footnote, the Raytheon travel system gives you the per passenger estimated co2 production for your flights when selecting travel options. :/

 A convenient way to pick your flight as to aid all those freezing souls on the east coast. (If co2 were to actually have any effect)

[AJ Dual]

Well, the TRADITIONAL way to celebrate Earth Day is to go to Washington D.C. and trash the national mall, leaving behind tons of filth, excrement, and random other garbage for SOMEONE ELSE to clean up.

I think the current situation in America might be an ongoing conspiracy to continually exacerbate the Tea Party into protesting, and thus getting several parks and public squares cleaned for free... 

[230RN]

birdman;

Let's see, jet-A is a mix of C-8 to C-16 hydrocarbons, with 70% alliances and 25-30% aromatics, so let's say an average carbon number of 10, with 17 hydrogens, or a average molecular weight of about 140, when burned, that yields 9 Co2 molecules, with a molecular weight of 440, so to make the math easier, just assume its about a factor of 3 between mass of co2 and mass of jet-A.

I estimated a three-hour flight by Fly320, with two engines.  Beyond that, the assumptions started piling up enough that I said the hell with it.  But that's a pretty good estimate, 3:1 !

(I got 396 instead of 440, for a 2.8:1 ratio --still, not bad ay-tall!.)

Main problem was the approximate composition of jet fuel.  Mucho danke!

Fly 320:  

83lbs/minute. I'll throw in the extra three minutes just for you.

Wow!  8 minutes of CO2 production.  I shall remember your efforts on my behalf!

Let me know where this 8-minute burn occurred, so after Erf Day, I can point at the sky and say, "See that there carbon dioxide?  That's my carbon dioxide contribution up there!"  

Terry

[birdman]

birdman;
I estimated a three-hour flight by Fly320, with two engines.  Beyond that, the assumptions started piling up enough that I said the hell with it.  But that's a pretty good estimate, 3:1 !

(I got 396 instead of 440, for a 2.8:1 ratio --still, not bad ay-tall!.)

Main problem was the approximate composition of jet fuel.  Mucho danke!

Fly 320:  Wow!  8 minutes of CO2 production.  I shall remember your efforts on my behalf!

Let me know where this 8-minute burn occurred, so after Erf Day, I can point at the sky and say, "See that there carbon dioxide?  That's my carbon dioxide contribution up there!"  

Terry

Oops, my mistake, the burn is 10 co2 molecules, as the average carbon is 10 ish.  The 9 was a typo.

[grampster]

I'm going to exercise my lawn tractor, both snowblowers, my generator and my Cyclone Rake (TM).  Gotta run those critters now and then.

Saturday at high noon those of us who cling to our bibles and our guns are to discharge a firearm in solidarity with those who actually understand what the 2A means.

[230RN]

^Bless your heart!
I don't have that much hydrocarbon-powered stuff except a generator and a car.   So I think I'll light a couple of candles for Erf Day.  That ought to add to my CO2 contributions, no?  And soooooo appropriate. :D

That, plus the eight-minute jet fuel burn by Fly320, ought to be enough to honor Erf Day in my small way.

I feel so warm and good and noble and cuddly inside.  Sigh.  <pats own back>

Terry, 230RN

[vaskidmark]

I sat idling for a little more than an hour today in front of the tres chic meat pies shop on Church Hill, where I picked up a six-pack of non-recyclable glass bottles (Blenheim's Ginger Ale) as well as pies for the next several days that will require our local coal-fired electricity generator to work overtime so I can run my microwave reheating them little pies (delicious even if tres chic).

stay safe.

[Boomhauer]

Blenheim's Ginger Ale

Saw that in a store here for the first time. How is it? I prefer real ginger ale to the Canady Dry and Schweppes crap that you commonly find in the real grocery store...unfortunately most of the grocery stores down here don't carry anything else...the hoity toity Whole Foods type places do but I don't have one in my hometown.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Northern neck ginger ale for the win


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[Fly320s]

230RN, happy Erf Day in advance.  I'm not working then, so I burned some extra gas today, just for you.  Nearly 100lbs/min.

[Boomhauer]

230RN, happy Erf Day in advance.  I'm not working then, so I burned some extra gas today, just for you.  Nearly 100lbs/min.

You should have stayed at a lower altitude to burn more...

[Fly320s]

You should have stayed at a lower altitude to burn more...

Bumpy lower. I wasn't that motivated to burn more. Maybe today.

[RevDisk]

No one else noticed there is a creepy purple guy in the corner of the photo?

[vaskidmark]

Saw that in a store here for the first time. How is it? I prefer real ginger ale to the Canady Dry and Schweppes crap that you commonly find in the real grocery store...unfortunately most of the grocery stores down here don't carry anything else...the hoity toity Whole Foods type places do but I don't have one in my hometown.

It's good, but overpriced for regular consumption.  Hot ginger as opposed to some of the Jamacian ginger beers which are more pungent than hot or sweet.

And yes, there are other good brands, but not at the tres chic meat pie shop.  I'll go to the yuppymarts every once in a while to pick up some if only to watch the reactions/responses to them seeing Santa with a cane and a FOAD attitude.  The mommies in yoga pants with the wee ones in the racing trike strollers are usually the most - I think "concerned" would be the appropriate word.

stay safe.

[230RN]

Thank you, Fly320s !  I shall nominate you for the Noble Prize for your "Outstanding Contribution to Terry's Carbon Footprint !"

I remain,

Your humble Servant,

Terry, 230RN

[wmenorr67]

I thought about burning some floppys or is it floppies?

[tokugawa]

Catching fishes.  Hopefully.