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Though I do not carry openly (at least not so far), this expressed many of my thoughts, and I wish I had penned it.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/05/daniel-zimmerman/p320-entry-open-carry-time/
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2014, 01:54:27 PM »
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2014, 03:44:35 PM »
Gentlemen used to carry swords.  ;)
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2014, 03:54:59 PM »
My own personal view is this:  There is a stronger movement to Open Carry because of the pressure from the other side to outlaw guns.  People, and perhaps Americans in particular, have a tendency to push back against anything that limits them.  So it's only natural that the Open Carry movement has ramped up.

I'm not a fan of open carry because I happen to think that the notion of universal concealed carry has a powerful effect on stultifying criminal behavior.  Fear of the unknown is a powerful emotion.
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2014, 04:46:05 PM »
i'm a big fan of open carry as it makes a personal defense weapon commonplace to the masses.
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2014, 04:58:35 PM »
Open carry if you want, but don't be a frickin retard and haul around a rifle.

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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2014, 05:07:41 PM »
You need to paint the muzzle tip orange


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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2014, 05:26:36 PM »
You need to paint the muzzle tip orange


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And then get on every internet forum and bray about it.

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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2014, 07:14:12 PM »
I'm not a fan of open carry because I happen to think that the notion of universal concealed carry has a powerful effect on stultifying criminal behavior.  Fear of the unknown is a powerful emotion.


How could open carry reduce this "stultifying effect"?

If anything, it would help spread the idea that the common folk are packin'. Mr. Martin hadn't gotten the word, and even his much-publicized death hasn't deterred all the other assaults and murders and rapes since then.
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2014, 08:21:40 PM »
Open carry if you want, but don't be a frickin retard and haul around a rifle.



But what if you never had much use for Sam Colt's invention ?  =|
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2014, 08:28:32 PM »
I like open carry because it preempts any any legal problems if someone notices or suspects you are carrying.
Q? Does this gun/holster print or stick out below my cover garment?
A: So what, its an OC state, so it doesn't matter.
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2014, 08:33:18 PM »
I like open carry because it preempts any any legal problems if someone notices or suspects you are carrying.
Q? Does this gun/holster print or stick out below my cover garment?
A: So what, its an OC state, so it doesn't matter.


This, too.
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2014, 10:34:49 PM »
I like open carry because it preempts any any legal problems if someone notices or suspects you are carrying.
Q? Does this gun/holster print or stick out below my cover garment?
A: So what, its an OC state, so it doesn't matter.

This, a million, as an ex - Texana.

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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2014, 10:45:17 AM »
Open carry if you want, but don't be a frickin retard and haul around a rifle.



I wonder the same thing.  Here in Michigan, we have had a few efforts to limit OC, but so far, the legislature has done nothing and the bills have been stuck in committees. 
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2014, 10:52:05 AM »
I don't necessarily disagree with the article, but advocating social change is not the reason I carry a gun.

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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2014, 11:19:22 AM »
I carry a gun to protect my family and myself.


I carry a gun openly (or at least did, in VA), to show that "normal people carry guns"


So for me, it was a statement.
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2014, 11:42:57 AM »
I carry a gun to protect my family and myself.


I carry a gun openly (or at least did, in VA), to show that "normal people carry guns"


So for me, it was a statement.

Yep.

Tired of hearing the "concealed carry gives you the tactical advantage of surprise" argument, just as I'm tired of hearing the "But my OCing beats your CC draw by 0.0xx seconds".

I have the right to not only possess but bear arms.  I am responsible for what happens when I actually do anything with the arm(s) I bear.  I refuse to accept responsibility for how other people "feel" about the fact that I bear arms.  I'd like them to keep their noses and their strident voices out of my lawfully doing so, just as I keep my nose and strident voice out of their hauling infants around in public, or owning 5-gallon* buckets without locking them up in their homes, or (worst of all) dresing so as to make The People of WalMart look conservative.  (Have you ever seen a paisley plaid?  Worn over polka dots!  My retinas are still smarting from that.)

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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2014, 02:17:53 PM »
I carry a gun to protect my family and myself.


I carry a gun openly (or at least did, in VA), to show that "normal people carry guns"


So for me, it was a statement.

Same reason I OC.  Although I would submit that I am more "normal" looking than Fitz.  :P :P :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2014, 10:27:31 PM »
Open carry if you want, but don't be a frickin retard and haul around a rifle.



In at least one state that I know of, that is the only firearm you can legally open carry, sidearms are a no-no, for the most part.  =|

I open carry all the time because I am fat and it is a comfortable way to carry.  :P   ;)

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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2014, 10:35:34 PM »
Open carry if you want, but don't be a frickin retard and haul around a rifle.



You mean like these buttplugs?


http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=44421.0
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2014, 10:39:11 PM »
You mean like these buttplugs?


http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=44421.0

And I will concede that point to you. If you are going to do it, at least don't look like some fricking hick fresh from the manure pile.



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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2014, 10:49:44 PM »
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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2014, 10:53:47 PM »
Holy *expletive deleted*it it's Seal Team Twinkie in the flesh!

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OTOH, there wouldn't be a tweeker left in Georgia...

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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2014, 10:54:17 PM »
You mean like these buttplugs?


http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=44421.0

I love it when somebody comes along and proves my point...

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Holy hell. It's like giving a loaded gun to a chimpanzee...

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the last thing you need is rabies. You're already angry enough as it is.

OTOH, there wouldn't be a tweeker left in Georgia...

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Re: Great explanation of open carry as social/political pedagogy
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2014, 10:56:01 PM »
Holy *expletive deleted* it's Seal Team Twinkie in the flesh!



How did you find that out, he wouldn't talk to me!!!



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