Fake Cop Pulls Over Real Cop

[Hawkmoon]

Someone suggested that locally, but the response was that dispatch had no way of knowing which cop - if any - was following you. 

They have radios. They can ask ... and they can inform the officer that you are proceeding to a safe place to pull over.

[onions!]

I wonder how they deal with "no cell phones when driving" ordinances then?
Making an "illegal" call to the police department to inquire if the "police" car behind you is legit?
Interesting conversation with the puller-overer.

[cordex]

I wonder how they deal with "no cell phones when driving" ordinances then?
Making an "illegal" call to the police department to inquire if the "police" car behind you is legit?
Interesting conversation with the puller-overer.

That's actually a really good question.  Given that the cell phone use is just an infraction, if you're really doubting the guy behind you is a real cop it's probably worth earning the charge with an illegal call.  If I were lost in the wilderness I'd be willing to face a poaching charge to survive.

In Oklahoma if you are in an unmarked car you must be in uniform.

Same here, but there's a catch: any valid uniform for your job counts.  Detectives driving unmarked cars?  Well, their uniform is a bad suit and tie, so ...

My preference would be for traffic enforcement to be strictly limited to uniformed officers in marked cars.  I might make an exception for particularly dangerous driving, but I'd make the unmarked or out-of-uniform cop wait for a marked unit to actually make contact with the driver.

[onions!]

My preference would be for traffic enforcement to be strictly limited to uniformed officers in marked cars.  I might make an exception for particularly dangerous driving, but I'd make the unmarked or out-of-uniform cop wait for a marked unit to actually make contact with the driver.

Make those marked cars black with white doors and require a gum ball on the roof and I'd be in agreement with you.
Around here most of the cruisers have morphed into dark slate blue stealthmobiles with either a low profile light bar or grill and rear window lights.

[cordex]

Make those marked cars black with white doors and require a gum ball on the roof and I'd be in agreement with you.
Around here most of the cruisers have morphed into dark slate blue stealthmobiles with either a low profile light bar or grill and rear window lights.

Yeah, I don't really disagree with that.  Around here they're mostly going to plain white chargers with some logo/text on the sides and front.  Seems like a move toward making the cars harder to detect, but that's really just icing on the fact that lightbars and paint jobs are more expensive than slicktops with some decals on the side.

[onions!]

Yeah, I don't really disagree with that.  Around here they're mostly going to plain white chargers with some logo/text on the sides and front.  Seems like a move toward making the cars harder to detect, but that's really just icing on the fact that lightbars and paint jobs are more expensive than slicktops with some decals on the side.

A little thread drift about the pursuit Charger.
I worked for many years at a GM dealership.It closed in 2010 and I went to work for a Chrysler dealer.The guys I worked with tried very hard to rub my nose in all things Chrysler.All in good fun.Anyways,the promo ads for the new 2013 V8 Pursuit Charger listed(and this was right from Chrysler mind)that the new Mopar was quicker to 60 but had a lower top speed than the Caprice.The guys I worked with completely missed the irony that a car that had been out of production since 1996 and was based on a chassis that was new for 1965 had just been out raced by a Teutonic design with the latest and greatest Hemi engine.After it sank in the GM bashing subsided.All in good fun.The Charger does have a separate hvac zone for the trunk though.That's impressive.

[cordex]

That reminds me.  Going to the low-profile bar or pulling the lightbar off entirely and going with the slicktop increases top speed and makes it much, much, much quieter in the vehicle during a pursuit.  I still don't like it from the perspective of recognizing actual cops.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I wonder how they deal with "no cell phones when driving" ordinances then?
Making an "illegal" call to the police department to inquire if the "police" car behind you is legit?
Interesting conversation with the puller-overer.

All those ordinances have an emergency calls provision

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[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Make those marked cars black with white doors and require a gum ball on the roof and I'd be in agreement with you.
Around here most of the cruisers have morphed into dark slate blue stealthmobiles with either a low profile light bar or grill and rear window lights.

Va used to have all sheriffs cars a special brown. Sheriffs brown not available to the public. They got rid of it in the name of economy.

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[wmenorr67]

Same here, but there's a catch: any valid uniform for your job counts.  Detectives driving unmarked cars?  Well, their uniform is a bad suit and tie, so ...

My preference would be for traffic enforcement to be strictly limited to uniformed officers in marked cars.  I might make an exception for particularly dangerous driving, but I'd make the unmarked or out-of-uniform cop wait for a marked unit to actually make contact with the driver.

Actually I believe that traffic enforcement is limited to uniformed.  If a undercover is in an unmarked and needs to make a stop they have to call in a uniform to assist before the stop is made.

[cordex]

Actually I believe that traffic enforcement is limited to uniformed.  If a undercover is in an unmarked and needs to make a stop they have to call in a uniform to assist before the stop is made.

Might just be different here, or maybe the cop I was talking to had it wrong, but here a detective in a bad suit can make a stop because he's not undercover - he just has less pretty bits on his uniform. 

Bad idea nonetheless, and I don't think many detectives want to conduct many traffic stops.

[KD5NRH]

Actually I believe that traffic enforcement is limited to uniformed.  If a undercover is in an unmarked and needs to make a stop they have to call in a uniform to assist before the stop is made.

IMO, Plano and Richardson did a pretty good compromise; normal cars in normal colors that don't make stops for regular speeding or admin infractions.  Put serious lights on them (basically everything you can hide) and fully uniformed cops in them, send them out on the freeway and use them on the 20+ over, (60 zone in heavy traffic) triple-lane-change-cutting-off-several-cars and other real problems.  Fully marked backup is rarely far away, and those violations are worth having some help with the stop ASAP anyway.

[wmenorr67]

IMO, Plano and Richardson did a pretty good compromise; normal cars in normal colors that don't make stops for regular speeding or admin infractions.  Put serious lights on them (basically everything you can hide) and fully uniformed cops in them, send them out on the freeway and use them on the 20+ over, (60 zone in heavy traffic) triple-lane-change-cutting-off-several-cars and other real problems.  Fully marked backup is rarely far away, and those violations are worth having some help with the stop ASAP anyway.

Kind of what you see around here in Oklahoma.

[KD5NRH]

Kind of what you see around here in Oklahoma.

Something I'd like to see a lot more of, since it gets the real dangerous violations caught.  I used to work with a retired Dallas cop who hardly ever wrote tickets for speeding or registration unless it was an add on to something serious.  As he put it, if you open your eyes and stop using the radar as a crutch, you can find plenty to keep you busy and make the public safer instead of piling more expense on good people who just can't afford a new sticker right now.

[cordex]

Something I'd like to see a lot more of, since it gets the real dangerous violations caught.  I used to work with a retired Dallas cop who hardly ever wrote tickets for speeding or registration unless it was an add on to something serious.  As he put it, if you open your eyes and stop using the radar as a crutch, you can find plenty to keep you busy and make the public safer instead of piling more expense on good people who just can't afford a new sticker right now.

That's the mindset I see from my local deputies and something I'd like to see generally adopted by police everywhere.

[MechAg94]

Most of the police cars I see are often not easy to tell when looking at the front,but are well marked on the side and rear.

[freakazoid]

Calling to make sure the person trying to pull you over or waiting for a safe place to pull over might not be a good idea. Was reading up on proper ways to pull over when a cop is behind you and came up on a forum for cops where someone had asked a question for them. Lots of "You will respect my authoritah" going on with when you see their lights come on you need to IMMEDIATELY pull over because only they are trained to know when it is safe for you to pull over and they turn there lights on when they say it's safe. The way a few responded it might be unsafe for the one being pulled over to wait and have it turn out to actually be a cop.

[Tallpine]

Cops don't seem to have much problem blocking half the highway just to pull somebody over