Bergdahl "fit" for duty.

[wmenorr67]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/14/bergdahl-could-return-to-active-duty-as-early-as-monday-army-says/?intcmp=latestnews

First question I have is what will his duties be?

There is so many issues with this guy anything short of turning rocks and mowing grass would set my radar off.  I know I wouldn't want him in charge of anything sensitive in nature.  I know since he is a NCO he shouldn't be doing "work" but supervising those that do then put him in charge of the detail that turns rocks and mows grass.

[dogmush]

Well he's got a couple schools to go to to catch up with his rank.  That'll keep him busy for a little bit.

[SADShooter]

He'll be stationed at Ft. Sam Houston. I say put him in charge of feeding the deer and peacocks in the Quadrangle. Better than he deserves, but limits his interaction with people.

[wmenorr67]

Well he's got a couple schools to go to to catch up with his rank.  That'll keep him busy for a little bit.

Knowing the Army they will give him a waiver.

[RevDisk]

Sounds like he's getting a desk job.

I know the internet hates the guy. I'm not ready to pass judgment as I don't know all the details. From what I understand, he's sketchy but not likely another Nidal Hasan. 5 years in captivity is a LONG time. Acting squirrelly during captivity or immediately after is understandable, so long as his actions were more or less honorable.

Call me funny, but I'm giving a POW the benefit of a doubt until proven otherwise.

[AJ Dual]

Meh... Seems like more "formalities" to me.

Like the automatic promotions while in captivity etc.  And the "innocent until proven guilty" method.

Probably also part of declaring him fit for Court Martial too.

[KD5NRH]

Doesn't McMurdo need a gate guard with no ammo?

It would be worth the cost of putting in a gate.  Not necessarily a fence, mind you, and a guard shack would be a waste of money, but gates aren't too pricey.

[Fly320s]

5 years in captivity is a LONG time.

Exactly.  Which is why being certified fit for duty in 2 months is a bit strange.

[onions!]

Doesn't McMurdo need a gate guard with no ammo?

It would be worth the cost of putting in a gate.  Not necessarily a fence, mind you, and a guard shack would be a waste of money, but gates aren't too pricey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbWg-mozGsU

BTW,I was thinking pre-court martial too.
Since there was such a huge fuss over getting him released,I wonder how they'd go about a court martial?
I suspect that within a year he'll quietly leave the Army and disappear from public view.

[41magsnub]

Doesn't McMurdo need a gate guard with no ammo?

It would be worth the cost of putting in a gate.  Not necessarily a fence, mind you, and a guard shack would be a waste of money, but gates aren't too pricey.

I'd say just a single spool of concertina wire stretched across a random bit of ice.

[dogmush]

Sounds like he's getting a desk job.

I know the internet hates the guy. I'm not ready to pass judgment as I don't know all the details. From what I understand, he's sketchy but not likely another Nidal Hasan. 5 years in captivity is a LONG time. Acting squirrelly during captivity or immediately after is understandable, so long as his actions were more or less honorable.

Call me funny, but I'm giving a POW the benefit of a doubt until proven otherwise.

5 years is a long time, and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on any squirrellyness during and since coming home.  I'll even cut his Dad some slack for behaviour during and after.  That's gotta suck.

It's the reports of his behavior beforehand that concern me.  Again, nothing's proven so I'm not saying ship him to Siberia, but a lot of folks, some of who I know, are raising some stink about him.  On the "where's there's smoke..." idea I wonder what's up.  I'm also pretty sure that nothing will ever be investigated.  Niether the Army nor the Executive branch want this to remain in the new very long.

I just hope he actually did get all the counciling he needed, and politics didn't force this speedy recovery.

[wmenorr67]

I too am trying not to pass judgment prematurely on the guy but I see some similar issues with him that were there with Manning.  What pisses me off about the Manning situation is that yes he did wrong but he should have never been in the position he was in.  He should have had his clearance suspended and he too painting rocks.

I am in the same camp as being all OK after just a couple of months after being held captive for 5 years.  I would like to see any correlation as to how long it took for POW's from Nam to be considered "fit" considering.

[Hawkmoon]

Exactly.  Which is why being certified fit for duty in 2 months is a bit strange.

"Fit" to sit at a desk and shuffle papers. He was in a combat unit. It will probably be a long while before he returns to combat status, if ever.

[wmenorr67]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/14/bergdahl-could-get-350g-tax-free-if-cleared-by-army/

Bergdahl was moved to the U.S. Army North command on Saturday, shifting from the U.S. Army South command, which had overseen his arrival in the U.S. and reintegration. Under Army North, he will return to work and live in standard military barracks. He is being assigned to the protocol office, which assists soldiers in military procedures and etiquette.

“That’s the worst place to put him. They’re pulling his clearance so I’m not sure what he’s supposed to do,” said one Army official, speaking on the condition of anonymity as they were not authorized to publicly discuss the sergeant’s case.

If it is deemed he was a POW I have no problem with him getting his pay because he is entitled to it.  I'm just curious as to why his pay would have stopped while he was being held since there was no question about him being alive?

[KD5NRH]

If it is deemed he was a POW I have no problem with him getting his pay because he is entitled to it.  I'm just curious as to why his pay would have stopped while he was being held since there was no question about him being alive?

Do deserters normally get paid for the time they spend AWOL?

[dogmush]

Do deserters normally get paid for the time they spend AWOL?

No.

I read, but now forget, what his official status was while he was gone, but if they are talking back pay, it must have been deserter.  I'm 99.95% sure if they think you're a POW the whole time you keep getting paid. 

[Fitz]

Well now that Bowe Bergdahl is back on Active Duty he needs to finish his AT Level 1, Anti Phishing, Removable Media, Combating Trafficking in Persons General Awareness Course, Composite Risk Management, Equal Employment Opportunity, Fraternization, Law of Land Warfare, OPSEC, Personnel Recovery, TARP, SHARP, Suicide Prevention, Cyber Awareness, Safe Home Computing, PII, SERE 100, SSD 2.

Also his Hearing Readiness is 720 days delinquent and he needs to make his way to S1 to update his DD93 and SGLI.

Also he can't forget his MRT, Weapons qual, PT test, POV inspection, INFOSEC, Accident Avoidance, and Risk Assessment! Oh! His Medpros are red, his shot card is outdated by five years, and his GAT is red.

And all by COB today.

[Ben]

Well now that Bowe Bergdahl is back on Active Duty he needs to finish his AT Level 1, Anti Phishing, Removable Media, Combating Trafficking in Persons General Awareness Course, Composite Risk Management, Equal Employment Opportunity, Fraternization, Law of Land Warfare, OPSEC, Personnel Recovery, TARP, SHARP, Suicide Prevention, Cyber Awareness, Safe Home Computing, PII, SERE 100, SSD 2.

Also his Hearing Readiness is 720 days delinquent and he needs to make his way to S1 to update his DD93 and SGLI.

Also he can't forget his MRT, Weapons qual, PT test, POV inspection, INFOSEC, Accident Avoidance, and Risk Assessment! Oh! His Medpros are red, his shot card is outdated by five years, and his GAT is red.

And all by COB today.

Yeah, but he can do them over the web, so... 

[Balog]

"I am sorry for everything. The horror that is America is disgusting."

"If deployment is lame, I'm going to get lost in the Mountains and make my way to China."

I am ashamed to be an American. And the title of 'U.S. soldier' is just the lie of fools.

At least six soldiers were killed in subsequent searches for him, according to soldiers involved in the operations to find him. The Pentagon was not able to provide details on specific operations in which any soldiers killed during that time were involved.

[Fitz]

Ayup.


CSM i know is retiring over this. He lost several good troops

[wmenorr67]

Well now that Bowe Bergdahl is back on Active Duty he needs to finish his AT Level 1, Anti Phishing, Removable Media, Combating Trafficking in Persons General Awareness Course, Composite Risk Management, Equal Employment Opportunity, Fraternization, Law of Land Warfare, OPSEC, Personnel Recovery, TARP, SHARP, Suicide Prevention, Cyber Awareness, Safe Home Computing, PII, SERE 100, SSD 2.

Also his Hearing Readiness is 720 days delinquent and he needs to make his way to S1 to update his DD93 and SGLI.

Also he can't forget his MRT, Weapons qual, PT test, POV inspection, INFOSEC, Accident Avoidance, and Risk Assessment! Oh! His Medpros are red, his shot card is outdated by five years, and his GAT is red.

And all by COB today.

LOL funny you should mention TARP.  Only can be given by a CI agent or qualified 35 series.  Not sure I would want him holding a weapon anytime soon and not sure OPSEC will do any good.  His DD93 would be a great idea because if it had been correct maybe someone would have been getting his pay all this time.

He probably needs SSD1 and if it has been more than two years since he was signed up to do it he is screwed because it isn't supposed to be able to be reopened once it closes.  If no SSD1 no further schools so no further advancement.  Time to go ahead and just admin him out.

[Bigjake]

Why, again,  isn't he being investigated?   


I can't imagine getting away with this,  but apparently it's a thing.  I should go desert to France or some other nice place til EAS,  then come back and collect back pay it seems.. 

[wmenorr67]

There is some sort of investigation going on but until they complete it the public isn't going to hear too much about it to try to keep the integrity of it intact.

[brimic]

He should run for the US Senate.

[cordex]

He should run for the US Senate.

Whoa. That was a low blow. He hasn't been convicted yet, there is no need to associate him with US Senators or their ilk. Pretty sure that violates the APS standards of politeness, even if describing a potential deserter.