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Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« on: July 21, 2014, 09:13:33 AM »
I remembered this question has come up before.  I heard mention of this last week and thought I would pass it on. 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/health-survey-gives-government-its-first-large-scale-data-on-gay-bisexual-population/2014/07/14/2db9f4b0-092f-11e4-bbf1-cc51275e7f8f_story.html

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The National Health Interview Survey, which is the government’s premier tool for annually assessing Americans’ health and behaviors, found that 1.6 percent of adults self-identify as gay or lesbian, and 0.7 percent consider themselves bisexual.

The overwhelming majority of adults, 96.6 percent, labeled themselves as straight in the 2013 survey. An additional 1.1 percent declined to answer, responded “I don’t know the answer” or said they were “something else.”

The commentary I heard last week was pointing out that based on actual population, gays and lesbians over represented in media and have a lot of political influence. 

http://gaylife.about.com/od/comingout/a/population.htm
This was another link that popped up on the Bing search of other data.
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 03:35:59 PM »
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 04:14:36 PM »
There are probably another 5% that might be maybe/sorta/kind of or experimented once in college once while drunk that are being counted in the usually statistics. :laugh:
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 04:20:42 PM »
Quote from: brimic on July 21, 2014, 04:14:36 PM
There are probably another 5% that might be maybe/sorta/kind of or experimented once in college once while drunk that are being counted in the usually statistics. :laugh:

Are you trying to tell us something?  ;)
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 04:25:56 PM »
So, really, it's less than 2.5%?

So, the fewer of them, the more special they are? The more oppressed, and in need of our help? Maybe they can demand reparations.
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 04:38:02 PM »
Look at the bright side.
In another couple of generations straight white males will be in such a minority that they'll probably put us in a zoo.
All kinds of special then.
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2014, 04:43:42 PM »
Quote from: onions! on July 21, 2014, 04:38:02 PM
Look at the bright side.
In another couple of generations straight white males will be in such a minority that they'll probably put us in a zoo.
All kinds of special then.
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Can I be in the cage with the spider monkeys?
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 05:42:35 PM »
Quote from: onions! on July 21, 2014, 04:38:02 PM
Look at the bright side.
In another couple of generations straight white males will be in such a minority that they'll probably put us in a zoo.
All kinds of special then.
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I think we have already reached the point where straight white males should automatically qualify for Minority Business Enterprise status. Add "Christian" to that and it should be a slam dunk.
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2014, 05:49:31 PM »
Quote from: Hawkmoon on July 21, 2014, 05:42:35 PM
I think we have already reached the point where straight white males should automatically qualify for Minority Business Enterprise status. Add "Christian" to that and it should be a slam dunk.

I think there should be some kind of hate crime victim status for us after all the things I read after the recent Hobby Lobby decision about ridding the Earth of all old white males. Seems to me that talk of genocide should qualify.
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2014, 05:56:10 PM »
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think we have already reached the point where straight white males should automatically qualify for Minority Business Enterprise status. Add "Christian" to that and it should be a slam dunk.

Political/religious minority status worked out really well for others in fascist countries in the 20th century.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2014, 05:58:23 PM »
Quote from: brimic on July 21, 2014, 05:56:10 PM
Political/religious minority status worked out really well for others in fascist countries in the 20th century.

We still have our guns.And the lessons from history to learn from.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2014, 05:59:32 PM »
Quote from: onions! on July 21, 2014, 05:58:23 PM
We still have our guns.And the lessons from history to learn from.
If we learned anything from history, those guns would have been used a long time ago. :facepalm:
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2014, 06:01:41 PM »
Quote from: brimic on July 21, 2014, 05:59:32 PM
If we learned anything from history, those guns would have been used a long time ago. :facepalm:

Careful.Or this thread will get moved to politics. [tinfoil]
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2014, 06:26:27 PM »
Quote from: brimic on July 21, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
Can I be in the cage with the spider monkeys?

Suit yourself.  I want to be the limited commodity in the cage full of straight women.
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2014, 09:07:50 PM »
Then consider that only a single digit percentage of that small minority will avail themselves of same sex "marriage" if it's available.

The battle against gay marriage is a pointless exercise IMHO. Much ado about nothing.
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2014, 10:17:19 PM »
Quote from: Ron on July 21, 2014, 09:07:50 PM
Then consider that only a single digit percentage of that small minority will avail themselves of same sex "marriage" if it's available.

The battle against gay marriage is a pointless exercise IMHO. Much ado about nothing.


It was never about the numbers, for either side.
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2014, 08:48:12 AM »
Quote from: fistful on July 21, 2014, 10:17:19 PM

It was never about the numbers, for either side.

As professed followers of Christ there is a contingent of the homosexual/progressive population who have chosen to be our enemy.

Our responsibility is to love them.

Generally what I'm observing in the media from "Christian leaders" is a wide scale condemnation of all gay folks, stereotyping all of them into an easy to hate enemy. In fact I'm not seeing any love at all from "Christians" toward the militant gay crowd (except from the old line liberal and doctrinally confused progressive Christian crowd) . I'm pretty sure the vast middle of marginal or non-believers aren't seeing any love either. What they do see is an almost irrational dislike of the "other" from institutional orthodox Christianity. Now it may be a natural response to the militants actions but in practice it alienates not only homosexual folks but their friends and families.

Maybe as followers of Christ we should focus on some other sins like our love of money, gluttony or our abdication of taking care of the poor and in need to the secular state.  

Considering the state of true marriage in our churches a little bit of humility is in order.
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2014, 08:54:25 AM »
Quote from: Ron on July 22, 2014, 08:48:12 AM
As professed followers of Christ there is a contingent of the homosexual/progressive population who have chosen to be our enemy.

Our responsibility is to love them.

Generally what I'm observing in the media from "Christian leaders" is a wide scale condemnation of all gay folks, stereotyping all of them into an easy to hate enemy. In fact I'm not seeing any love at all from "Christians" toward the militant gay crowd (except from the old line liberal and doctrinally confused progressive Christian crowd) . I'm pretty sure the vast middle of marginal or non-believers aren't seeing any love either. What they do see is an almost irrational dislike of the "other" from institutional orthodox Christianity. Now it may be a natural response to the militants actions but in practice it alienates not only homosexual folks but their friends and families.

Maybe as followers of Christ we should focus on some other sins like our love of money, gluttony or our abdication of taking care of the poor and in need to the secular state.  

Considering the state of true marriage in our churches a little bit of humility is in order.

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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2014, 08:56:49 AM »
"Doctrinally confused progressive Christian crowd"?  What is that?
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2014, 09:16:43 AM »
Quote from: MillCreek on July 22, 2014, 08:56:49 AM
"Doctrinally confused progressive Christian crowd"?  What is that?

Those Christians who have abandoned objective truth for some type of post modern view of truth.

The Emerging Church movement is pretty much rife with post modern thought and I fear for where that will lead them in the long run.

Having said that, I appreciate some of the challenges to orthodox thought they have mounted while being very leery of their shaky hermeneutics.
   
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2014, 09:23:16 AM »
Quote from: Ron on July 22, 2014, 09:16:43 AM
Those Christians who have abandoned objective truth for some type of post modern view of truth.

The Emerging Church movement is pretty much rife with post modern thought and I fear for where that will lead them in the long run.

Having said that, I appreciate some of the challenges to orthodox thought they have mounted while being very leery of their shaky hermeneutics.
   
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2014, 12:44:48 PM »
Quote from: Ron on July 22, 2014, 08:48:12 AM
As professed followers of Christ there is a contingent of the homosexual/progressive population who have chosen to be our enemy.

Our responsibility is to love them.

Generally what I'm observing in the media from "Christian leaders" is a wide scale condemnation of all gay folks, stereotyping all of them into an easy to hate enemy. In fact I'm not seeing any love at all from "Christians" toward the militant gay crowd (except from the old line liberal and doctrinally confused progressive Christian crowd) . I'm pretty sure the vast middle of marginal or non-believers aren't seeing any love either. What they do see is an almost irrational dislike of the "other" from institutional orthodox Christianity. Now it may be a natural response to the militants actions but in practice it alienates not only homosexual folks but their friends and families.

Maybe as followers of Christ we should focus on some other sins like our love of money, gluttony or our abdication of taking care of the poor and in need to the secular state.  

Considering the state of true marriage in our churches a little bit of humility is in order.

The "Christian leaders" you're referring to have as much to do with actual Christians as Al Sharpton has to do with non-ghetto blacks.
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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2014, 01:02:10 PM »
Also, Ron, here's a good example of why we can't just "live and let live, ignore it and concentrate on important things" etc etc.

http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/07/22/want-prove-dont-hate-gays-all-you-have-to-do-is-worship-at-their-feet/

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Re: Less than 3 percent of the U.S. population identify themselves as gay
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2014, 02:06:19 PM »
Ron,

I share your concerns. Unfortunately, it is not very loving to paint with such a broad brush. You also treat these things as if they were mutually exclusive. There's no reason why churches can't fulfill their God-given mission to love the poor and the sinners, while also reproving sin. While doing that, they can also join other pro-reason folks in opposing irrational govt policies (same-sex marriage, etc.).
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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2014, 07:10:03 PM »
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