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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2014, 01:55:08 AM »
I havent read the whole thread.... but when you tell people that comparing two presidents is SACRILEGE, you're most assuredly putting him on a pedestal.

As for supporting terrorists, lets not forget that our actions (a lot of which occurred during reagan's administration) were DIRECTLY responsible for solidifying the control of a-stan by islamic extremists.

I highly recommend "Ghost Wars" and similar books for a glimpse at the insanity of what we did there during the soviet occupation
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2014, 02:07:36 AM »
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Until they fly jets into my skyscrapers and use the guns I sold them to kill my troops. Then I guess they're an enemy again.
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2014, 03:59:09 PM »
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Until they fly jets into my skyscrapers and use the guns I sold them to kill my troops. Then I guess they're an enemy again.

Well at least we're consistent, what with helping the Syrian "rebels" who are ISIS
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #53 on: August 08, 2014, 04:08:39 PM »
Well at least we're consistent, what with helping the Syrian "rebels" who are ISIS

I'm not sure which was the worse punishment, the bombings or sending John McCain to visit.
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2014, 05:37:06 PM »
TV Nooze just announced that They (who exactly They are was not clear) are now looking into murder charges against Hinkley.

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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2014, 06:58:13 PM »
Anything to pump up the gun violence stats.
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2014, 07:01:26 PM »
TV Nooze just announced that They (who exactly They are was not clear) are now looking into murder charges against Hinkley.


Brady's death has been ruled a homicide:  http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/08/politics/brady-death-homicide/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Whether the prosecutor will file charges against Hinckley remains to be seen.  Personally, I think it's a long shot (no pun intended).
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2014, 08:47:28 PM »
If they do charge him with homicide, does anybody really expect a verdict other than NGBRI?

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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2014, 08:48:32 PM »
His "documented improvement" will work against him there. He's sane enough to leave alone
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #59 on: August 08, 2014, 10:56:00 PM »
His "documented improvement" will work against him there. He's sane enough to leave alone

Theoretically (I know, I know) his current status can only help him avoid being sent back to St. E's 24/7.  If/when they try him they will have to deal with his mental state on that day, not how he is now.  NGBRI again.

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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2014, 10:43:05 AM »
Gov't had their chance and the lovely residents of DC screwed the pooch.

This is asinine.
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2014, 11:14:18 AM »
Was Reagan's death ruled a homicide? 
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2014, 11:19:10 AM »
How is this a murder?  He survived the attack, and lived to old age.
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2014, 11:20:25 AM »
Was Reagan's death ruled a homicide?  
No.
If they do charge him with homicide, does anybody really expect a verdict other than NGBRI?

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As I understand it they will have to consider his mental state at the time of the crime.  He may (or may not ... ) be perfectly sane now but that doesn't matter.  And three decades ago he was NGBRI, as you say.
It's already been adjudicated.  
I think any reasonable DA would decline prosecution because they know what the result would be, and no useful end is served by prosecution at this point.  Just my 2 cents....
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2014, 04:29:08 PM »
From the comments at TTAG: thetruthaboutguns.com/.../brady-campaign-founders-death-ruled-homicide/#comments

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OK, first time posting, but since I have some expertise in this matter, figured I’d chime in. I’m a retired forensic pathologist who did my fellowship in New Mexico. A medicolegal death investigation attempts to answer several questions including the cause and manner of death.

Cause of death is just that: what killed the individual. It can be divided into the immediate and underlying cause(s) of death. The immediate cause of death is the illness or injury that leads to death. The underlying cause of death is the illness or injury that started the chain of events that leads to death. So long as that chain is unbroken, there is no time limit. The underlying cause of death may have occured days, weeks, months, or decades, but as long as the chain is unbroken, it doesn’t matter. For example, someone who falls off a ladder and breaks his neck, thus becoming a quadriplegic, will usually suffer from chronic complication of that injury such as aspiration pneumonia, chronic urinary tract infections which can lead to renal failure, etc. If he eventually dies from one of these complications, the immediate cause of death may be aspiration pneumonia (for example), but the underlying cause of death is blunt force trauma due to the fall. Since aspiration pneumonia is a common complication of quadripegia it is reasonable to conclude that his death was initiated by his injury and since he never recovered from that injury, the chain remains intact even if the time between his initial injury and death is years apart. Now, if he had died from something not related, such as prostate cancer, then the cause of death would simply be prostate cancer.

Manner of death is simply a classification of death, and is divided into natural, homicide, suicide, and accident. If the manner is unclear or unresolved, it remains undetermined. Note that this classification has no legal bearing in court. It is quite possible for the medical examiner and the court to reach different conclusions in terms of manner of death. Also, homicide in terms of classification by the medical examiner, is a neutral term and covers culpable and non-culpable homicide.

So in my example above, the manner of death would be accident since the initiating event was a fall from a height. Or if it was an intentional jump, it would be classified as suicide. If he was pushed, then it would be a homicide. So in the case of Mr. Brady, if the immediate cause of death was a complication that resulted from his gunshot wound, then the death would correctly be classified as a homicide.
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Re: James Brady, White House press secretary under Reagan, dies
« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2014, 09:12:54 PM »
Charging him with murder now is like saying a spoon is the reason Micheal Moore and Rosie O are fat.
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