Woo-hoo - we made the Drudge Report!

[Balog]

Sounds like you roll a little light to me...I've been known to add a handgun or two, shotgun, and a precision rifle in addition to the rifle and one pistol.

I'm honestly curious. What exact situation do you envision using those in?

[Boomhauer]

I'm honestly curious. What exact situation do you envision using those in?

I'm a firm believer in being prepared for any eventuality...and bringing guns to share with friends.

Honestly the shotgun was a bit superfluous...

[brimic]

I'm honestly curious. What exact situation do you envision using those in?

Where I work, most of my egress routes take me through the ahole of milwaukee. There have been 'incidents' involving large groups of yoots that have made the national news in the last few years in places that I normally drive through- all without a cop shooting to set them off.

[Boomhauer]

Where I work, most of my egress routes take me through the *expletive deleted* of milwaukee. There have been 'incidents' involving large groups of yoots that have made the national news in the last few years in places that I normally drive through- all without a cop shooting to set them off.

Lets put it this way...in the next few years I envision a lot of "civil unrest" much like the '60s...but no real legitimacy basis like the civil rights movement.

[vaskidmark]

Get yoself a righteous killin piece here

http://www.fortturner.com/store/

Lot less 'splainin' to do with one of these on the rear floorboard (now how did that get there?).

http://www.estwing.com/ao_campers_axe.php

[vaskidmark]

The nooze is full of the Misery State Po-leece takin' over from the locals.

Sounds like a good time to drop the hammer on the interstates, seein' as all the Troopers have been diverted to Fun City.

stay safe.

[Boomhauer]

The nooze is full of the Misery State Po-leece takin' over from the locals.

Sounds like a good time to drop the hammer on the interstates, seein' as all the Troopers have been diverted to Fun City.

stay safe.

Jesus H Christ, the MHP officer in charge of the contingent is joining the *expletive deleted*ing rioters instead of bustin' heads.

Yep, this is going to solve the issue.

The only language these mother *expletive deleted*ers speak is force. Until society grows a *expletive deleted*ing spine and starts busting some heads and putting some shitheads in the ground, then the animals will continue to prey on the law abiding citizens...

[zxcvbob]

Jesus H Christ, the MHP officer in charge of the contingent is joining the *expletive deleted* rioters instead of bustin' heads.

Yep, this is going to solve the issue.

The only language these mother *expletive deleted*ers speak is force. Until society grows a *expletive deleted* spine and starts busting some heads and putting some shitheads in the ground, then the animals will continue to prey on the law abiding citizens...

You've got shitheads on both sides.  I'm all for bustin' heads as long as that works both ways.  (I'll probably get a demerit on TFL for suggesting they lock the cops and the New Black Panthers in a big stadium with plenty of baseball bats for both and let them work out their differences w/o involving the locals)

I really hope MHP can deescalate things.  The local cops are provocateurs, probably out of solidarity for the cop that shot that young man -- whom I doubt was *totally* innocent in the situation, but how many ppl are ever total innocent.

[MillCreek]

Lot less 'splainin' to do with one of these on the rear floorboard (now how did that get there?).

http://www.estwing.com/ao_campers_axe.php

http://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Factory-Truckers-All-Purpose-Survival/dp/B005HAT9SM

[Balog]

Where I work, most of my egress routes take me through the *expletive deleted* of milwaukee. There have been 'incidents' involving large groups of yoots that have made the national news in the last few years in places that I normally drive through- all without a cop shooting to set them off.

Sure, but I just have trouble envisioning a situation where you stop, retrieve rifle from the trunk, and then start shooting. If it's so bad you need a rifle, it's far to bad to stop and pull it out of the trunk.

Not being a jerk, it's just confusing to me what the intended deployment scenario is.

[RoadKingLarry]

Better to have it and not need it...

[Boomhauer]

Sure, but I just have trouble envisioning a situation where you stop, retrieve rifle from the trunk, and then start shooting. If it's so bad you need a rifle, it's far to bad to stop and pull it out of the trunk.

Not being a jerk, it's just confusing to me what the intended deployment scenario is.

Vehicles are rather vulnerable to being disabled and/or blocked in.

[vaskidmark]

Neu Yawkers gather at Union Square for solidarity, then decide to walk up the streets to Times Square, blocking traffic as they swarm go.  The 99% are on the move.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/new-yorkers-stage-demonstrations-michael-brown-article-1.1904265

The pictures of the "moment of silence" are confusing to me.  Are they actually silently chanting, or has the notion of "a moment of silence" been revised?

stay safe.

[Boomhauer]

"Anonymous" is calling for Days of Rage protests across the country.

[Balog]

Vehicles are rather vulnerable to being disabled and/or blocked in.

And in that scenario you envision being able to grab it from the trunk then repel boarders?

Not sarcastic, I really am wondering.

[Perd Hapley]

Funny I would have expected this out of East St Louis, not one of the western Burbs.

Well, it's North County.


Help me out here, folks.

The cops were lambasted for doing nothing, and letting looters take over on Sunday night. Now, the past two or three days, all I hear is that the cops are being "heavy-handed," and shouldn't be pointing rifles at people, using tear gas, being all military-like. Concerns about the militarization of police seems to have gone mainstream.

 

If anything, Ferguson seems to be a case that would justify all of that military hardware. Looting, arson, Molotov cocktails, random gunfire? From what I'm reading, a lot of the "protests" are centered around the Quiktrip, as if to leave no doubt that they intend more of the same.

What is your take?

[Perd Hapley]

No rioters ever saw them. According to the story, that store is in Florissant - next door to Ferguson, but not that close.

I was wrong. Apparently, that store is closer to ground zero than I had thought.

And there was a shoe store looted by about 30-40 people in south city, nowhere near Ferguson, so...

[Balog]

I think the cops using their rifles scopes like binoculars and aiming in on people who were not threats is incredibly wrong on every level and should get the morons fired and charged.

[vaskidmark]

I think the cops using their rifles scopes like binoculars and aiming in on people who were not threats is incredibly wrong on every level and should get the morons fired and charged.

Which is it?

Using optics to get a closer look, or using optics to aim (as in select and prepare to shoot)?

Will you next be calling out hunters that use their rifle-mounted scopes to check out the terrain looking to see if they can spot whatever it is they'd like to hunt (you know, aim at, shoot, and kill)?

What, if any, difference is there between the cops and "overwatch" teams in Afghanistan?  Neither is glassing the area with the intent of shooting everything that comes into their field of view.  (And I understand the cops have much stricter ROE that the folks in the 'Stan.)

stay safe.

[Perd Hapley]

I think the cops using their rifles scopes like binoculars and aiming in on people who were not threats is incredibly wrong on every level and should get the morons fired and charged.

Obviously.

[Perd Hapley]

I just realized what they need in Ferguson.

Lots of rain.

[brimic]

Sure, but I just have trouble envisioning a situation where you stop, retrieve rifle from the trunk, and then start shooting. If it's so bad you need a rifle, it's far to bad to stop and pull it out of the trunk.

Not being a jerk, it's just confusing to me what the intended deployment scenario is.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/08/05/report-black-mobs-attack-white-patrons-outside-wis-state-fair/

This is not where I work, this is further out in the 'burbs where black mob violence isn't supposed to happen.

And yes, if my family were in the car, I would shoot any *expletive deleted*er that made a threatening move toward them. They were pulling 'white' people out of their cars and beating them.


I narrowly missed a 'juneteenth day' celebration gone awry a few years ago because I simply selected a different route on my way home that day. One of my coworkers went through the area right as the rioting started warming up and only had a few people jump up and down on their car.

This one happened a couple of blocks form where i work in a place I drive through every day.   http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/125027704.html

[KD5NRH]

Will you next be calling out hunters that use their rifle-mounted scopes to check out the terrain looking to see if they can spot whatever it is they'd like to hunt (you know, aim at, shoot, and kill)?

Pointing a gun at something you're not fully prepared to kill?  Seems to me I read a rule against that somewhere.

What, if any, difference is there between the cops and "overwatch" teams in Afghanistan?  Neither is glassing the area with the intent of shooting everything that comes into their field of view.  (And I understand the cops have much stricter ROE that the folks in the 'Stan.)

Pretty solid expectation that everything in many of those areas is either a valid target or a safe backstop.  That's hardly the case in a US city.

[dogmush]

Pointing a gun at something you're not fully prepared to kill?  Seems to me I read a rule against that somewhere.

Pretty solid expectation that everything in many of those areas is either a valid target or a safe backstop.  That's hardly the case in a US city.

Absolutely not.  The vast majority of the war zone is not either a valid target or a safe backstop.  Again I point out that the ROE of those overwatch teams is stricter then that that the officers very likely have. (which is it's own problem)

I generally feel like cops need to stop pointing weapons at people as much as they do.  And it sure is shaping up to sound like the cop that shot Brown was firmly in the wrong.  But at this point we have a pretty severe breakdown of civil society, and in the context of that breakdown, I can see both the tactical need, and the moral justification for giving police sharpshooters very clear cut ROE (defend victims, not Ruby Ridge) and allowing them to set up overwatch and OP's and vector other forces in.  Doing so with scoped precision rifles makes sense (you can collect info for vectoring, and if needed go to engagement).  Yes, it's a more offensive role then LEO's normally take.

Obviously at the end of the civil unrest such practices should be curtailed.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Driving cross country with family tomorrow.  Will be upgrading defenses and not going near Chicago