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Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« on: January 02, 2025, 09:40:17 AM »
Yes, one actually leads to the other.  :laugh:

So I got this backup generator installed, and Generac has an app so that you can check the health of your generator, check for alerts, etc. Super simple little app. I went to download it and got a "not compatible with your device" message. Why? My Samsung S9 and Android version were too old. What?!? I have all kinds of complex apps on the phone that also regularly update (Samsung stopped updates on my phone like two years ago). No problem with new versions of those apps working on the phone. But the crappy little Generac app? Nope.

So I have an around two year old Lenovo tablet laying around and tried that. Same thing - too old. Then I do some research and see that Generac provides a website as an alternative to the app. Great! I set it up, find the generator's AP, and get it showing up on the web app. However there is no #$%(*& way to connect the generator's AP to my network from the web app - you need the regular app. I got so pissed off that I found a Samsung Tab A9+ on sale at Amazon for $150 and had it overnighted Tuesday. Success! Downloaded the app and got the generator talking to my network.

Which having to buy the Tab leads to the second part. Holy moly - there is all kinds of old data of mine in the cloud that I didn't know was there, as in, I thought I had deleted it all. It all came about because the Tab started talking to my Samsung TV and phone, and wouldn't let me finish initial setup until I logged into my Samsung account. So I just rolled my eyes and did that so I could get the genny stuff taken care of, but then last night started scrolling through the tablet.

The first thing I saw was that even without Google Calendar installed, the Samsung calendar has my current Google calendar events on it and up to date. Then also, apparently because it is talking to the phone and TV, it is showing my main network, even though I have the SSID off. I put all my Internet of Things stuff and portable devices on my guest network, so it shouldn't have seen the primary.  I do have the primary available on the TV though, which I have on a wired connection, even though I keep the TV on the guest network and only use the primary for troubleshooting. Somehow the Tab must have seen that and showed it as an available network.

Then I looked at the Tab "contacts" app, where >200 contacts, going back to like 2005 (or I'm thinking whenever I got my first smart phone, and started moving contacts to new phones) were showing up. My current phone has like 50 because I (thought) deleted a bunch of old and obsolete contacts. The Tab contact list is full of old work contacts. There are O-2s and O-3s on there that by now are Admirals, revolving door GS-15s, or Battelle consultants.

I'm thinking what happened is that the Samsung account, which I never do anything with, is synching with Google on my phone and creating phone backups, so that even if I get rid of stuff in Google, there are older copies of stuff on the Samsung account backup. I'm going through and trying to figure out where everything is and where I can permanently get rid of stuff, but it's a bit unnerving to find all kinds of PII that I thought I had secured showing up from unexpected sources. It really makes me wonder how much more of it is in other places on the cloud from old phone carriers or other applications that synch data that I've forgotten about. I guess Big Brother will have an easy time scraping information on me off the Internet if I ever become a person of interest.  :laugh:
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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2025, 10:02:17 AM »
I got the same surprise a couple years ago when I upgraded phones. Ended up going through all my Google Drive, Photo, etc files via desktop login to do cleanup. Nothing terribly embarrassing, but still a few few odds and ends which most definitely no longer apply or haven't aged well.

FYI... I hung on to my Galaxy S10 with rabid ferocity for what I presume are reasons similar to yours. I finally capitulated a few years back when Verizon dangled enough carrots. Galaxy S22 Ultra. It's a hoss - powerful, capable, and unbelievably good battery life. Very very satisfied with it. A bit on the large side but that makes it easier for me to hold and see. The only downside thus far is the lack of headphone jack. A $12 dongle makes it a non-issue.

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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2025, 10:07:41 AM »
I got the same surprise a couple years ago when I upgraded phones. Ended up going through all my Google Drive, Photo, etc files via desktop login to do cleanup. Nothing terribly embarrassing, but still a few few odds and ends which most definitely no longer apply or haven't aged well.

FYI... I hung on to my Galaxy S10 with rabid ferocity for what I presume are reasons similar to yours. I finally capitulated a few years back when Verizon dangled enough carrots. Galaxy S22 Ultra. Very very satisfied with it. The only downside thus far is the lack of headphone jack. A $12 dongle later makes it a non-issue.

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I generally don't have anything embarrassing on the interwebz, other than my association with APS.  =D

I have noticed a couple of times now that after cleaning up Google photos of gun pictures, just because of Google and guns, that photos have repopulated themselves. I can only guess it's because Google (or Samsung I guess) reconfigured some privacy defaults after I had opted out of various "automatic opt-in" features.

I'm waffling on the phone. I really love the S9, even though it's long in the teeth. I'm not a fan of the new AI phones, plus they are all humongous. The S9 borders on too large for me. Yet I realize that at some point I will probably have to upgrade. If nothing else, I really want to take advantage of the new Starlink stuff, given how often fishing, etc. take me into "no service" areas.
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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2025, 10:34:55 AM »
I'm waffling on the phone. I really love the S9, even though it's long in the teeth. I'm not a fan of the new AI phones, plus they are all humongous. The S9 borders on too large for me.

You will be happy to learn the standard S24 is, near as makes no difference, dimensionally identical to your S9.

S9 - 147.7 x 68.7 x 8.5
S24 - 147 x 70.6 x 7.6

I took the leap when Verizon offered stupid big money for trade in of my old phone. That, plus piggybacking a contract-commitment price promo, got me the S22 Ultra for what SWMBO has in her S22 Standard. When it comes to size, yeah, the Ultra is a chunk, but with my big hands it ends up being easier to hold and the unbelievably good video performance is a godsend what with my aging eyes. I threw on a Supcase UB Pro case for protection. Decent enough protection without the bulk (or price) of an Otterbox.

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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2025, 11:06:11 AM »
Yeah... after the OPM fiasco some years ago I've really given up caring about what information of mine is floating around the cloud.

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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2025, 11:11:35 AM »
Yeah... after the OPM fiasco some years ago I've really given up caring about what information of mine is floating around the cloud.

Yeah, but at this point I'd prefer that my hacked SF-86 and adjudication stuff was in the hands of the CCP versus the FBI...or Google (or Soros if I put on the tinfoil).

And I'm still pissed off that no Asian hottie came up and fluttered her eyes at me in the bar after they did that. Fresh out of fed.gov when it happened, I was the perfect candidate for "social manipulation". Dammit.
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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2025, 11:12:48 AM »
You will be happy to learn the standard S24 is, near as makes no difference, dimensionally identical to your S9.

S9 - 147.7 x 68.7 x 8.5
S24 - 147 x 70.6 x 7.6

Good to know. I'm still not thrilled with all the new "AI helper" stuff, but I guess as long as it will fit in my pocket...  :laugh:
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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2025, 07:22:49 AM »
Yeah, but at this point I'd prefer that my hacked SF-86 and adjudication stuff was in the hands of the CCP versus the FBI...or Google (or Soros if I put on the tinfoil).

And I'm still pissed off that no Asian hottie came up and fluttered her eyes at me in the bar after they did that. Fresh out of fed.gov when it happened, I was the perfect candidate for "social manipulation". Dammit.


Silly boy!

George Soros and the FBI bought your information directly from the CCP's Mao are Us online store!

It's cute how you think that they don't have your information. They knew about your bidet before you knew about your bidet. :rofl:
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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2025, 07:24:27 AM »
Good to know. I'm still not thrilled with all the new "AI helper" stuff, but I guess as long as it will fit in my pocket...  :laugh:

I've yet to use Gemini, or whatever it is that Samsung has.

Depending on what I'm doing it will occasionally pop up and ask "Would you like Gemini to do/find/help/etc. you with that?"

No, and *expletive deleted*ck off very much.
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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2025, 07:56:55 AM »

Silly boy!

George Soros and the FBI bought your information directly from the CCP's Mao are Us online store!

It's cute how you think that they don't have your information. They knew about your bidet before you knew about your bidet. :rofl:
They even have a back door to the files - maybe even a live feed - of your bidet camera as well. (You probably didn't realize it came with one because it's hidden so well.)
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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2025, 08:16:34 AM »
They even have a back door to the files - maybe even a live feed - of your bidet camera as well. (You probably didn't realize it came with one because it's hidden so well.)

FBI agent: OMG, what the hell is that?

Ben: That would be my big fat ass!
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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2025, 08:19:53 AM »
FBI agent: OMG, what the hell is that?

Ben: That would be my big fat ass!

THAT'S NO MOON!

PS - How is your bidet install going?  :rofl:
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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2025, 08:36:39 AM »
THAT'S NO MOON!

PS - How is your bidet install going?  :rofl:

Attention, FBI! There will be two moons in the sky tonight! :rofl:

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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2025, 09:10:13 AM »
They even have a back door to the files - maybe even a live feed - of your bidet camera as well. (You probably didn't realize it came with one because it's hidden so well.)

Are you saying the FBI has a back door into K-Frame's back door?
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Re: Crappy Generac App and Old Personal Data in the Cloud
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2025, 09:13:05 AM »
Are you saying the FBI has a back door into K-Frame's back door?

Nice try, but it's back doors all the way down.
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