Suppressors10:57 Suppressors are up. I can barely scroll on this phone, may need to try tapatalk. Starting a new post because of trouble scrolling.
Same as mufflers, invented by same person. (Maxim) "Won't be ninjas shooting"
10:58 Rothman. Holding up suppressor. Good speech. Eight times louder than a jack hammer.
11:01 Walking us through federal process to acquire Title 2 items.
11:11 Someone else up. Sighting medical studies. Very good work so far. Said one shot caused permanent hearing loss.
If you have suppressor, doesn't protect you from others, question from rep.
11:15 ASA up. Talking about noise, laws. Says criminals only use home made suppressors. Criminals don't want an extra 4-9 inches on their pistols.
Hunters want institutional awareness. Don't wear hearing protection.
11:21 Cornish: Shot locator can find suppressed weapons. Suppressed weapons have not been a problem in any state.
11:24 ASA: Air guns are stronger than suppressed 22. Said "how often are 22 used in crime." My comment, often. I think a rep added later that they are used it was a bad comment from the ASA. ASA also missed hunting dogs hearing protection, and recoil.
Q: Do other states limit pistol suppressors, or suppressor size? A: No and no.
Q: Does suppressor affect bullet forensics. A: No impact.
ASA was asked about its membership size concerning normal people. 1000 normal people, lots of dealers, manufacturers, new org, since 2011, it just started growing.
Q: Gun show loophole with suppressors? A: No, same regs. (Some laughter from the crowd)
11:31 Minnesota weapons collectors org up. No real comments, they support suppressors.
11:32 Citizens up: MN NG guy up. Lost hearing in Iraq. Wants suppressors in part for home defense.
11:34 Opposition's turn. Heather Martens, head of Protect Minnesota, and the leader of the opposition. Claims 15k members (lie).
Claims gun owners think suppressor regs are good as they sit, also says we want to dismantle fed gun suppressor laws. MN chiefs against it. Shot spotter is not good, doesn't want it worse.
Silencers were not designed to protect hearing. Says silencers were designed to commit murder and get away with it. (Laughter) Crowd told to be quiet. (All of her BS came from an article from Salon.)
11:38 Q: For martens. Claimed 12 uses in crime. A: Because of strict controls. Fed legislation is under attack.
Q: How does this bill affect the fed issue re legalization. A: We will have nothing at state level should fed laws be repealed.
Q: Can you be snuck up on by eight jack hammers? A: feds reg these. (I should look up the videos, I could not transcribe very fast on my smart phone, as such I am missing lots of details.)
8 x louder, scientist says you need 32 devices because of db scale. (It would actually be a lot more, the energy is 32x louder)
11:43 A surgeon is up. The audience is reminded to be quiet if we object to anything we hear.
He says knows nothing about guns, but it's sad when he can't save people, including from gun shots. Thanked Andrew Rothman (GOCRA pres) for help with parking meter.
Brought up health issue of suppressor, hearing. Claims evidence of hearing protection us sketchy. Casting doubt on well researched science in general. He doesn't seem too anti gun.
He doubts relationship between db and hearing loss. (My comment WTF, lots of WTF looks and noises in the room) (His statements ended up being mocked by *everyone* all night, many reps, and our side really ripped into his statements.)(That guy was adamant, and answered many questions on the matter, he doesn't think loud noises cause hearing loss, WTF??)
Rep mentions the state and laws always sight and measure in db.
11:51 Another lady up. Said reason for fed law was gangsters, I will transcribe some of these comments when I get home. She claims this is being pushed by NRA and manufacturers. She is showing pictures from suppressor manufacturer/dealer websites. (I could see a skull and cross bones on one of the sheets. She must be hand picking adds that make us look bad, not sure if what she is showing is legitimate ads or not)
11:55 Cornish said we won't finish now, will recess at noon. He said sheriff's and MPPA?? (another LEO group) Aren't here to oppose. (they aren't here at all, and gave no objection, nor would they, as they are pro gun)
Now we have unorganized citizen open testimony.
11:57 Previous lady who's sister was shot in her bed is up again.
11:58 Another guy up. Wants a 70 db limit and restriction of suppressors to ranges.
12:02 Another guy, Uzi FA instructor was shot and killed by a little girl. Says noise issue is a lie. Mainly a way for poachers. Mentioned Britain.
12:03 Another guy, runs a tech firm, no financial issue or stake. Pro gun.
Private citizens done.
12:05 Reps talking.
"I'd like to table this till we can hear from an audiologist."
<pause>
Tony Cornish - "No, we are in recess." <gavel bangs> Several in the audience LOL
Seems they had about 10 people total, not sure. We seem to have over 100.
