Another doctor thinks vaccines cause mental diseases

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Pertussis is bad enough they have changed the protocol to allow pregnant women to get it so the kids carry some of that immunity till they can get their own shots
Much of the vaxxer movement is about selling supplements ala doc oz and doc mercola

And typically the vaxxer is also likely to be a truther or a birther or a chemtrailer
Sometimes all of the above


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[mtnbkr]

They don't get a separate needle for each shot.

Yup.  They can even combine them so you get even fewer shots (useful for a very needle-phobic mom or terrified kid).

Chris

[zxcvbob]

They don't get a separate needle for each shot.

And I think the polio vaccine they use is the oral one.  Some of the other vacs might be nasal mist.

[TechMan]

Here is the CDC recommended schedule: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/downloads/child/0-18yrs-child-combined-schedule.pdf

For both our boys, we opted not to have the Hep B shot given right at birth and had it given with one of the other sets of vaccines.  We also spread out the shots in 2 month range with approval of our Pediatrician.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

And when in doubt double down on your less than optimal performance and choices.
His interviews are getting worse not better
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/02/02/this-rand-paul-interview-with-cnbc-didnt-go-well/?tid=sm_fb


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[zxcvbob]

And typically the vaxxer is also likely to be a truther or a birther or a chemtrailer
Sometimes all of the above

You know they're gonna get one right someday.  (then we'll never hear the end of it)

[Ben]

And I think the polio vaccine they use is the oral one.  Some of the other vacs might be nasal mist.

Oh yeah, I guess I got the polio one in the 60's too.

Actually, I just looked up a history of vaccination schedules:

http://vec.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-schedule/history-of-vaccine-schedule.html

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I got the old " cool scar polio " shot


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[Ben]

I got the old " cool scar polio " shot


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I thought the circle scar is from the smallpox vaccine?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

It might be I was young and forget

Yup it was small pox


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[roo_ster]

FTR, I am in the "vaccinate early & often" crowd.  But, then, I have read a few books on disease & history, public sanitation & health, etc.

I'll play the odds, thanks.  We are letting in every third-world fool, the more ignorant & savage the better.  No doubt we are seeing outbreaks when those sort mix with Whole Foods Mom's and Prepper Mom's unvaccinated kids.  The third world replacement population is going to bring in enough diseases for which we don't have vaccines.  No need to make it easy for them.

What gets me is that kids & adults who truly can not tolerate vaccination are the only ones we can afford to let go unvaccinated.  When we add on WFM's and PM's kiddos, we have sufficient infect-able population that we will have outbreaks...and possibly harm those who truly can not tolerate vaccination.

OTOH, gov't makes it difficult to defend the pro-vaccine position by producing flawed studies, being the sole contractor, and protecting the manufacturers & selves from legal risk.

[Perd Hapley]

Is anyone else reminded of how they asked Romney about birth control?

[Ron]

Does anyone here think that immunization should be mandatory or you go to jail?

Should the government just arrest you, have you restrained and immunized against your will?

This is an issue I've never really given a lot of thought to because I was immunized as a child. I may have gotten a tetanus booster at one point but until recently I never gave it much thought.

Is allowing the government to mandate that you be injected with organisms of their choosing part of the price we pay for civilization? 

[Balog]

They are really pushing the whooping cough/tetanus vaccine.

I went in for a check up and next thing you know they were trying to vaccinate me.

Mentally I wasn't prepared so I took a pass and figured I'd look into it and get it next time I'm in the office.

Tetanus I've had but what's with the whooping cough? Really I'd prefer to just get the ones that are necessary to hold off pandemics.

What is necessary and what is corporate marketing based on peddling fear?

Snohomish County is experiencing a literal epidemic of pertussis because filthy hippies don't get their kids vaccinated and it spreads to kids too young to get the vaccine.

[Balog]

Be careful of dismissing the claims of the anti-vaxers.  Stuff is bubbling just below the surface that will change things dramatically.  This comment from a guy who was vaccinated out the ying-yang.

Chemtrails were too inefficient so they had to switch to vaccines to get the mind control agent out there. 

[Balog]

Does anyone here think that immunization should be mandatory or you go to jail?

Should drunk driving be illegal? Firing a gun into the air in celebration? If I walk around holding a hand grenade with the pin pulled, am I really doing anything wrong? Why are you trampling my freedom bro?

ETA: I don't think jail is the right response to parents not vaccinating their kids for the major stuff. I think removal of the child and maybe forcible sterilization are much more appropriate.

[Balog]

The end of Ace's take is not flattering, even though I disagree with it somewhat I post it here because he makes a very salient point about Rand's electability:

We definitely need to go with the most electable candidate. Romney in a landslide!

[Jocassee]

We definitely need to go with the most electable candidate. Romney in a landslide!

I'm not down on Rand but I'm all for him being smart and his Pops being quiet.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

You are destined to be disappointed then


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[Mannlicher]

nothing is perfect.  All pharma products will have some adverse reactions.  The overall benefits of vaccinations far outweigh any individual mishaps.
People that don't get their kids vaccinated are idiots.

[Fitz]

Lots of people hearing what they want to hear about Rand's position. I'll just leave it at that and we'll see what happens in 2016.

[brimic]

Does anyone here think that immunization should be mandatory or you go to jail?

Should the government just arrest you, have you restrained and immunized against your will?

This is an issue I've never really given a lot of thought to because I was immunized as a child. I may have gotten a tetanus booster at one point but until recently I never gave it much thought.

Is allowing the government to mandate that you be injected with organisms of their choosing part of the price we pay for civilization? 

nope, no jail. Mandatory quarantine if they get sick should suffice.

[Boomhauer]

nope, no jail. Mandatory quarantine if they get sick should suffice.

Combine this with no admittance to schools or daycare w/o immunization and I think you'll pretty much solve the anti-vaccination issue without any need to arrest anybody or force vaccinations.

[Marnoot]

Mandatory quarantine if they get sick should suffice.

Only problem there is that for some diseases (see measles), you're contagious for several days before you manifest symptoms. If quarantine doesn't happen until there are symptoms (which it likely wouldn't), it's only going to be partially effective.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I told one of my neighbors that were my kids to get sick and were I to think her unvaccinated kids were responsible I would take it out on her husband. Her kids were there they will tell dad. I wish I could be there for that .


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