Author Topic: Brony trigger alert - My Little Pony tells children about marxism and equality  (Read 8954 times)

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http://thefederalist.com/2015/04/08/my-little-pony-to-children-marxism-is-not-magic/

Trigger and spoiler alerts all around.

However, perhaps the best sentence is right at the beginning:
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I feel it’s necessary to preface this article by stating that I am not a brony. I’ve met a couple, and I don’t exactly…get it. It’s like relishing the days when you had easy access to a playground butt-kicking. That said, after seeing the message the show carries, I might join them now.

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Was this only about "diversity" or did it mention economics too?

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My Little Pony meets Harrison Bergeron?
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My Little Pony meets Harrison Bergeron?


How would they play the Handicapper General?
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Was this only about "diversity" or did it mention economics too?

It apparently only touched on social marxism. Everyone being exactly equal, except for the Leader who keeps its specialness.

In the end, leader is exposed as a fraud and everyone embraces their individualism. So, yay?
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How would they play the Handicapper General?

With Gilbert & Sullivan.

"I am the very model of a Handicapper General . . ."
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It apparently only touched on social marxism. Everyone being exactly equal, except for the Leader who keeps its specialness.

In the end, leader is exposed as a fraud and everyone embraces their individualism. So, yay?

Still deeper than 99% of children's cartoons are willing to go.

I also hesitate to call myself a 'brony', though I'll admit to watching the cartoon & reading the comics, it's not like I've watched most of them more than once, I just added it to my queue of stuff to watch because I really like 'new'.  I enjoy it, but only the same as I enjoy many other shows.

That being said, the ponies are badasses.  They're not kidding when they say that Equestria is a realm where your average Dungeons & Dragons adventuring party would hesitate to tread.  The main cast lives next to a forest containing - Dragons, giant serpents, basilisks, manticores, giant star bears, flying tribbles, magical poisonous flowers, and many other things that a party of murder-hobos would consider 'challenging'.  Meanwhile, once you include magic abilities the Ponies are actually ahead of many sci-fi races, doing things like controlling the weather.  As in scheduling rainfall, sunlight, etc...

Oh, and they actually break gender stereotypes/rules left and right.  The main cast are business owners/operators, appointed to important positions, etc...  Rarity runs her own clothing shop.  Rainbow Dash's 'job' varies a bit, but she's often in charge of the local weather.  Twilight was the town librarian/troubleshooter/princess's representative.  Applejack runs the farm(cooperatively with her brother).  Pinkie works for the local bakers(specializing in sweets, apparently), but seems to have a side line arranging parties.  Flutteryshy is the local wildlife manager/caretaker.  Keep in mind that this translates to 'provides veterinary care to animals such as manticores'.

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Still deeper than 99% of children's cartoons are willing to go.

I also hesitate to call myself a 'brony', though I'll admit to watching the cartoon & reading the comics, it's not like I've watched most of them more than once, I just added it to my queue of stuff to watch because I really like 'new'.  I enjoy it, but only the same as I enjoy many other shows.

That being said, the ponies are badasses.  They're not kidding when they say that Equestria is a realm where your average Dungeons & Dragons adventuring party would hesitate to tread.  The main cast lives next to a forest containing - Dragons, giant serpents, basilisks, manticores, giant star bears, flying tribbles, magical poisonous flowers, and many other things that a party of murder-hobos would consider 'challenging'.  Meanwhile, once you include magic abilities the Ponies are actually ahead of many sci-fi races, doing things like controlling the weather.  As in scheduling rainfall, sunlight, etc...

Oh, and they actually break gender stereotypes/rules left and right.  The main cast are business owners/operators, appointed to important positions, etc...  Rarity runs her own clothing shop.  Rainbow Dash's 'job' varies a bit, but she's often in charge of the local weather.  Twilight was the town librarian/troubleshooter/princess's representative.  Applejack runs the farm(cooperatively with her brother).  Pinkie works for the local bakers(specializing in sweets, apparently), but seems to have a side line arranging parties.  Flutteryshy is the local wildlife manager/caretaker.  Keep in mind that this translates to 'provides veterinary care to animals such as manticores'.


Ever played Diablo 3? There's an easter egg level where you have to fight My little Ponies (or unicorns...)and Carebears- some of the toughest non-boss monsters in the entire game! Maybe they are tough because you are laughing too hard to play though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MClM4I1YKYE
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I'm glad a kids show (or for odd adults) is making a pushback. For years we had to endure the goldarn communist smurfs.
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I hate to break it to you, Firethorn ...

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Oh, and they actually break gender stereotypes/rules left and right. 


So the show has its downside, too.
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I hate to break it to you, Firethorn ...

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The Tick was a good cartoon also, but I don't start talking about its philosophical and social aspects.  It was just funny.  IMO, any cartoon that isn't funny is pointless. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtO0diaiZEE
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The Tick was a good cartoon also, but I don't start talking about its philosophical and social aspects.  It was just funny.  IMO, any cartoon that isn't funny is pointless.

A cartoon, boiled down, is a means of presenting a story that's not 'live-action'.  In the USA there is a strong correlation with 'funny', but you can tell quite serious stories with cartoons.  Heavy metal, for example, is very adult, and while it has it's funny moments, is quite serious a lot of the time.

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Heavy metal, for example, is very adult, and while it has it's funny moments, is quite serious a lot of the time.

Well, serious as a film that features a half-naked chick riding a pterodactyl can be, anyway.  :laugh:
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Well, serious as a film that features a half-naked chick riding a pterodactyl can be, anyway.  :laugh:

And she was one of the more clothed females in the series.  ;)

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A cartoon, boiled down, is a means of presenting a story that's not 'live-action'.  In the USA there is a strong correlation with 'funny', but you can tell quite serious stories with cartoons.  Heavy metal, for example, is very adult, and while it has it's funny moments, is quite serious a lot of the time.
Maybe that is preference.  I don't care for cartoons that intrude too much on reality.  They are by definition unreal.  IMO, they don't do reality well.  The temptation to go over the top is too great.  I have similar issues with the way CGI is appied in movies also. 

Maybe I should have said "entertaining" rather than funny, but cartoons are good tools for humor/satire. 
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Oh, and they actually break gender stereotypes/rules left and right.  The main cast are business owners/operators, appointed to important positions, etc...  Rarity runs her own clothing shop.  Rainbow Dash's 'job' varies a bit, but she's often in charge of the local weather.  Twilight was the town librarian/troubleshooter/princess's representative.  Applejack runs the farm(cooperatively with her brother).  Pinkie works for the local bakers(specializing in sweets, apparently), but seems to have a side line arranging parties.  Flutteryshy is the local wildlife manager/caretaker.  Keep in mind that this translates to 'provides veterinary care to animals such as manticores'.

Yes, but how does the show depict males? I am not impressed by messages that women are independent and intelligent and strong. In 2015 this is not bold or new or revolutionary. Depicting females as equally capable as males is great; simply depicting females as awesome is just chauvinism.
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Maybe that is preference.  I don't care for cartoons that intrude too much on reality.  They are by definition unreal.  IMO, they don't do reality well.  The temptation to go over the top is too great.  I have similar issues with the way CGI is appied in movies also. 

Maybe I should have said "entertaining" rather than funny, but cartoons are good tools for humor/satire. 

Yeah I've about had it with CGI in movies.  It's one thing to bend reality some....but the *expletive deleted*it they do in many movies now thanks to CGI that is beyond real is out of hand.
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Oh, and they actually break gender stereotypes/rules left and right.
Good point.  Breaking gender stereotypes/rules is actually the new stereotype and rule.  It is the norm in entertainment, and often carried way too far as zahc mentions.
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My girlfriend gave me a pony as a gag gift for Valentines Day. It wasn't until I read this article that I learned it is Rainbow Dash. I have never seen the show but she is pretty fabulous.
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My girlfriend gave me a pony as a gag gift for Valentines Day. It wasn't until I read this article that I learned it is Rainbow Dash. I have never seen the show but she is pretty fabulous.

The GF or the pony?

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