Biker gang shootout in Waco

[Jamisjockey]

http://news.yahoo.com/multiple-injuries-reported-texas-biker-gang-shooting-204703808.html

Holy smokes 

[Stand_watie]

http://news.yahoo.com/multiple-injuries-reported-texas-biker-gang-shooting-204703808.html

Holy smokes 

I see the cossacks around here frequently.

[TommyGunn]

Wow......what  mess!!    Glad I was in    Alabama when it happened!

[Boomhauer]

I'd sure like to know what gangs were involved and how many gang members vs. everybody else were killed and injured.

[Stand_watie]

I'd sure like to know what gangs were involved and how many gang members vs. everybody else were killed and injured.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/police/update-p-m-officials-say-more-biker-gang-members-headed/article_37addf70-e4e5-505a-98b4-ecbef08a2a87.html

I take everything in the news with a giant shaker of salt, but that article is quoting bandidos and cossacks. It would be really ironic if all/most of the shootings wind up to have been done by law enforcement

[Jamisjockey]

The banditos are the real deal.

No innocents according to that last link.

[griz]

Please don't et any of them be CCL holders.

[MechAg94]

The nine killed were all members of biker gangs, he said, as were the 18 people who were taken to hospitals with injuries that include stab and gunshot wounds. Some victims are being treated for both, he said.

The yahoo article says all the dead and injured were gang members.  Hopefully, that doesn't change.

I am curious about the comments on the Twin Peaks Restaurant management not cooperating with police before the incident.  Wonder if the manager or owner belongs to one of the groups.

I wonder how many different gang members will be charged over this.  I have to think the cops around there are looking for any excuse to stop and detain/search any gang member they see.  The article said the FBI and BATFE are involved also.

[Cliffh]

The cop doing the talking on the evening news was trying to make it the restaurant owners fault - (paraphrasing) "We asked them to not let the event happen and they didn't listen to us, now look what happened".

I'm siding with the owners at this time.  There are many reasons they might have wanted to have the event, some of them good, some not.  Either way, it ain't the cops place to tell the owners what kind of event they can have or not.  Cops knew about it in advance, had officers there waiting, just in case.  That's OK by me.  But to try to stop it just because there might be trouble, nope. 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Bikers spend cash. And there is currently soa syndrome.  Folks see it as a cool thrill to be near the 1 percenter's.
And the thrill seekers spend too.
Things can go bad real fast real bad

[gunsmith]

even though I liked the sons of anarchy TV show it helped me realize that ... indeed... outlaw bikers are pimps/murderers -
there are a lot of wannabeees and real ones in Reno where I live and I now make it a point to stay away and when I meet people that might admire biker gangs I ask them point plank - "what kind of person would remain silent if they knew a guy had raped/murdered?" a biker gang member even if not guilty of doing that is sworn to protect at least with silence - fellow club members who have.
No decent person could do that.

[wmenorr67]

The story I read was that it was a meeting that included several clubs that is meant to keep this *expletive deleted*it from happening.  Here in Oklahoma there is the same deal.  Once a quarter I believe all the clubs meet to go over issues that may have come up.

Curious as to what the fall out of this might be on a larger scale.  From the three main groups involved the Bandidos is the only one here in Oklahoma and they don't run the state.

http://txcocinews.org/

Link to the Texas site.

[vaskidmark]

http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/index.php/2015/05/18/because-nothing-says-yall-behave-now-better/

stay safe.

[Fitz]

This is why I don't like going to CoC meetings.

[charby]

This is why I don't like going to CoC meetings.

What is CoC?

[RoadKingLarry]

The story I read was that it was a meeting that included several clubs that is meant to keep this *expletive deleted*it from happening.  Here in Oklahoma there is the same deal.  Once a quarter I believe all the clubs meet to go over issues that may have come up.

Curious as to what the fall out of this might be on a larger scale.  From the three main groups involved the Bandidos is the only one here in Oklahoma and they don't run the state.

http://txcocinews.org/

Link to the Texas site.

The Bandidos don't "run" the state but they have a very significant presence particularly if you add in the "support clubs". And, the  HA have a very quiet but considerable presence in the NE part of the state.

I used to attend the OK COC meetings as a rep for ABATE. Never saw or heard of any issues at the meetings.
http://okcoc.com/members.php

In a "previous life" there were 2 rules that were very important to keep in mind:
Don't bring heat on the patch.
Three can keep a secret if two are dead.  (that one originates with the HA but it's pretty widespread)

What just happened in Waco very definitely brought a hell of a lot of heat on all the clubs involved. I'd be real surprised if the shooting and dying is over. What follows probably wont be nearly so high profile but it's far from over.

[Fitz]

What is CoC?

confederation of clubs.

Otherwise known as "a bunch of scumbags trying to pretend they're civilized, and give a *expletive deleted*it about anything other than their bullshit allegiance to clubs"

Last one i went to, a fight broke out almost immediately.

I have no idea why CVMA participates, but I won't be anymore

[Monkeyleg]

Folks see it as a cool thrill to be near the 1 percenter's.

I've always given outlaw bikers a wide berth. There's just too many psychopaths in their ranks who will start wailing on you for no good reason. And they're not above stealing your bike from you if there's nobody around.

I have had a couple of opportunities to laugh at them, though.

[charby]

confederation of clubs.

Otherwise known as "a bunch of scumbags trying to pretend they're civilized, and give a *expletive deleted*it about anything other than their bullshit allegiance to clubs"

Last one i went to, a fight broke out almost immediately.

I have no idea why CVMA participates, but I won't be anymore

Gotcha, I can see that going downhill in a hurry at a meeting.

[charby]

I've always given outlaw bikers a wide berth. There's just too many psychopaths in their ranks who will start wailing on you for no good reason. And they're not above stealing your bike from you if there's nobody around.

I have had a couple of opportunities to laugh at them, though.

I try to avoid them like the plague. I was on a large organized bicycle ride fundraiser a couple weekends ago and a handful of SOSs showed up at the American Legion we stopped at for refreshments, I was waiting for them to try and start something with all of us bicyclists.

[Fitz]

I try to avoid them like the plague. I was on a large organized bicycle ride fundraiser a couple weekends ago and a handful of SOSs showed up at the American Legion we stopped at for refreshments, I was waiting for them to try and start something with all of us bicyclists.

SOSs?

[HankB]

According to today's paper, every killing and wounding in Waco was in the "good riddance" category - that is, NO innocent bystanders were killed or injured, only motorcycle gang members. 

Also said only a few arrests were made so far, but over 50 were "detained" pending investigation.

Gunfire was also exchanged with the local police, but no definitive word on who shot who yet.

[Jamisjockey]

SOSs?

Sons Of Silence maybe

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ocgs/gangs/motorcycle.html

[wmenorr67]

confederation of clubs.

Otherwise known as "a bunch of scumbags trying to pretend they're civilized, and give a *expletive deleted*it about anything other than their bullshit allegiance to clubs"

Last one i went to, a fight broke out almost immediately.

I have no idea why CVMA participates, but I won't be anymore

The reason the CVMA and other non-1% clubs participate is so that they can fly their colors without hassle.  Try running an event without your state CoC recognizing your club and see what happens.

RKL you're right about the "large" presence of Bandidos in Oklahoma but the Outlaws run the state and the Mongols have a large presence also.

 

[charby]

Sons Of Silence maybe

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ocgs/gangs/motorcycle.html

Yes, they have a very large presence in Iowa.