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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 10:19:49 AM »
Here's hoping we can continue to argue about it while the country destroys itself fiscally and socialism gets furthered!
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 10:21:14 AM »
Let's use the precedent and push for all states to recognize each other's carry permits.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 10:23:39 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/26/supreme-court-gay-lesbian-marriage/28649319/

Gay marriage is now legal in all 50 states.

No surprise there, equal right for everyone.

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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 10:24:33 AM »
Federal hands on carry permit reciprocity is a bad, bad thing. Best to have States strike deals with each other, even if it take a while to get somewhere.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 10:25:36 AM »
No surprise there, equal right for everyone.

What about polygamy  ???

It's time we got serious about this equal rights thing  :P
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 10:35:54 AM »
Let's use the precedent and push for all states to recognize each other's carry permits.

Lolz.. Yes lets standardize the length of chain that gets put on everyone's ankle.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 10:36:19 AM »
Let's use the precedent and push for all states to recognize each other's carry permits.

This.

Federal hands on carry permit reciprocity is a bad, bad thing. Best to have States strike deals with each other, even if it take a while to get somewhere.

Not if it is done in the same manner as driver licenses and marriage licenses.  Issued in one state, but valid in all.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2015, 10:38:44 AM »
This.

Not if it is done in the same manner as driver licenses and marriage licenses.  Issued in one state, but valid in all.

This. Never sad anything about a federal CCW or getting the Feds involved. A CCW license issued in one state is valid in all states. Period. No fed licensing crap.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2015, 10:47:58 AM »
This. Never sad anything about a federal CCW or getting the Feds involved. A CCW license issued in one state is valid in all states. Period. No fed licensing crap.
Yeah, if everyone had to recognize Vermont Style Carry, you'd have a point, bit that isn't going to happen.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2015, 10:58:31 AM »
What about polygamy  ???

It's time we got serious about this equal rights thing  :P

I'm down with that.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2015, 11:03:42 AM »
Yeah, if everyone had to recognize Vermont Style Carry, you'd have a point, bit that isn't going to happen.

Yes. Vermont style carry nationwide is what I want, what we should already have. And yes, I agree with you that it will never happen....for several reasons that are all BS.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2015, 11:13:23 AM »
We have another Roe v. Wade, unjustly taking a contentious issue from the states, where it properly resided.

It's going to go just as well as that one, too.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2015, 11:15:07 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/26/supreme-court-gay-lesbian-marriage/28649319/

Gay marriage is now legal in all 50 states.

Seen on the facebooks: "So much for keeping government out of the bedroom".

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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2015, 11:18:56 AM »
We have another Roe v. Wade, unjustly taking a contentious issue from the states, where it properly resided.

It's going to go just as well as that one, too.

Oh, and I'll note that there is a proper way to get the federal government to force the states to grant government imprimatur to homosexual unions. It's called an amendment.

Having the SCOTUS decide that liberty means something because that's their preference is an extremely bad precedent.

Which, I suppose, is the perfect mate to yesterdays ruling that we live under the judgement of men, not law anymore. A marriage, even (definitely not made in heaven.)
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2015, 11:37:28 AM »
What about polygamy  ???

It's time we got serious about this equal rights thing  :P

I don't see how it could be legally objected to after this. Same with incestuous unions.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2015, 11:44:14 AM »
What about polygamy  ???

It's time we got serious about this equal rights thing  :P

Why not, it's not for me, but I'm not going to pass judgment on those who want to participate. Consenting adults can do whatever.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2015, 11:44:53 AM »
Same with incestuous unions.

I guess as long as they are adults.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2015, 11:46:48 AM »
We have another Roe v. Wade, unjustly taking a contentious issue from the states, where it properly resided.

It's going to go just as well as that one, too.

Indeed.

Just another anti-human, dyscivic judgement handed down by SCOTUS.  Don't expect folks to just sit around.

Here's hoping we can continue to argue about it while the country destroys itself fiscally and socialism gets furthered!

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I don't see how it could be legally objected to after this. Same with incestuous unions.

Homosexual pseudo-marriage, polygamy, incest, pedophilia are all on the same continuum.  What is absurd scare mongering today is policy tomorrow.  Keep an eye on your kiddos, because the libertines surely are.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2015, 11:50:30 AM »
I don't see how it could be legally objected to after this. Same with incestuous unions.

Marrying a pair of sisters was my thought to get a couple of wives with only set of in laws.  Now I just need to talk them into it by the time SCOTUS's next set of 'interpretations' comes around.

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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2015, 12:19:57 PM »
Marrying a pair of sisters was my thought to get a couple of wives with only set of in laws.  Now I just need to talk them into it by the time SCOTUS's next set of 'interpretations' comes around.

My neighbor, back when he was an up & coming corporate cool-guy, was propositioned by a pair of sisters for a matrimonial relationship involving the three of them.  Not sure if the gals were LDS or some offshoot.  He was sorely tempted, but in the end got wierded out by the religion.  Looking back on his choices in women to marry, he should have taken the deal.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2015, 12:23:56 PM »
What about polygamy  ???

What about it? It's plenty traditional, and I have yet to see a coherent explanation of why it's bad. Sure, you get more in-laws, but it's not the job of the government to protect people from bad decisions.
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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2015, 12:39:58 PM »
Not sure if the gals were LDS or some offshoot.

Could be an offshoot, the actual Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has not practiced plural marriage since the 1890s (it's now an excommunicable offense), which is also when the polygamous offshoots broke away. There are also a few other Christian and non-Christian sects that practice it, I believe.

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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2015, 12:44:48 PM »
From everything I've heard and read, there doesn't seem to be any legal wall to block polygamy at this point. I don't really care from the "minding my own business" standpoint and believing marriage should have nothing to do with government.

The problem with polygamy would be if, like with same sex marriage, the state forces employers to cover spouses on health care etc. In this case, spouses really is plural. That could cost business a lot of money.

The other legal battle that will likely ensue will be forcing churches to perform gay, poly, etc. marriages with the stick for not doing so being revocation of tax exempt status.

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Re: SCOTUS strikes down ban on gay marriage
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2015, 12:50:01 PM »
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The problem with polygamy would be if, like with same sex marriage, the state forces employers to cover spouses on health care etc. In this case, spouses really is plural. That could cost business a lot of money.

The other legal battle that will likely ensue will be forcing churches to perform gay, poly, etc. marriages with the stick for not doing so being revocation of tax exempt status.

This. I could care less about the gays getting married. I am more worried about stuff like churches and pastors being forced to perform marriages they do not want to.

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