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ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« on: June 26, 2015, 03:15:27 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 03:17:08 PM »
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Re: ISIS coordinates three terrorist attacks in three countries
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 03:46:33 PM »
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Shia mosque in Kuwait bombed, over 25 reported dead.

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I've been right by that mosque.

Apparently ISIS is starting to get more sporty.  We'll be kicking this ground war off soon.
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Re: ISIS coordinates three terrorist attacks in three countries
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 03:52:36 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on June 26, 2015, 03:46:33 PM
I've been right by that mosque.

Apparently ISIS is starting to get more sporty.  We'll be kicking this ground war off soon.

If "we" is France or some other country in the West, sure.

If by "we" you mean the United States, Obama will not commit our troops to a war. His "legacy" is the he ended all the wars! I'm not even sure a nuke would force his hand. (Though the impeachment might.)
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Re: ISIS coordinates three terrorist attacks in three countries
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 03:54:38 PM »
Quote from: makattak on June 26, 2015, 03:52:36 PM
If "we" is France or some other country in the West, sure.

If by "we" you mean the United States, Obama will not commit our troops to a war. His "legacy" is the he ended all the wars! I'm not even sure a nuke would force his hand. (Though the impeachment might.)

Unless any one of the several thousand American Service members in Kuwait get blown up.  Then I bet even Obama goes back in.
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Re: ISIS coordinates three terrorist attacks in three countries
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 04:04:59 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on June 26, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Unless any one of the several thousand American Service members in Kuwait get blown up.  Then I bet even Obama goes back in.

I'd take that bet.
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Re: ISIS coordinates three terrorist attacks in three countries
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 04:13:55 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on June 26, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Unless any one of the several thousand American Service members in Kuwait get blown up.  Then I bet even Obama goes back in.

Just like Reagan did after Beirut right?
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Re: ISIS coordinates three terrorist attacks in three countries
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 04:24:06 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on June 26, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Unless any one of the several thousand American Service members in Kuwait get blown up.  Then I bet even Obama goes back in.

What difference, at this point, does it make?
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Re: ISIS coordinates three terrorist attacks in three countries
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2015, 04:46:01 PM »
[shrug] I could be wrong.  Spending too much effort trying to guess how a politician will jump is a fools errand.  If recent history is any indicator, it will depend on how well a new war is trending on Facebook and Twitter.
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2015, 09:49:57 PM »

Think I'm one of the few that thinks we should stay out of it. At best, bomb the known ISIS strongholds to hell and/or run our troops through them as quickly as possible. Then immediately leave. Repeat as necessary. US military is quite good at breaking things and killing people. It absolutely sucks at occupation and politics.
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2015, 09:55:05 PM »
Agreed, 100%.  I don't want to go back, or think it will go any better, I just think it's likely, before.....oh say 2020 or so.
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2015, 09:56:58 PM »
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Think I'm one of the few that thinks we should stay out of it. At best, bomb the known ISIS strongholds to hell and/or run our troops through them as quickly as possible. Then immediately leave. Repeat as necessary. US military is quite good at breaking things and killing people. It absolutely sucks at occupation and politics.

Yep, me too.

We need to be very long-suffering, then if forced to "do something" do it with gloves off, disproportionate response.

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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2015, 09:59:02 PM »
I'm going to be really upset if France is the first one to actually take the gloves off.
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2015, 10:00:21 PM »
Doesn't ISIS have a flag  ???

We should ban their flag.  That'll fix them  :P
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2015, 10:09:35 PM »
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Doesn't ISIS have a flag  ???

We should ban their flag.  That'll fix them  :P

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Re: ISIS coordinates three terrorist attacks in three countries
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2015, 10:39:46 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on June 26, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Unless any one of the several thousand American Service members in Kuwait get blown up.  Then I bet even Obama goes back in.

You seem to think Obama is on our side.  He's an ISIS sympathizer; being careful not to go *too* far over the line and get himself impeached. 
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2015, 10:44:21 PM »
And we've gone from "News" to "Politics".  So time to move this one....
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Re: ISIS coordinates three terrorist attacks in three countries
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2015, 11:18:39 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on June 26, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Unless any one of the several thousand American Service members in Kuwait get blown up.  Then I bet even Obama goes back in.

Obama would likely apologize to the terrorists and release more gitmo residents.
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2015, 11:55:33 PM »
When Obama gets that 3 am phone call, he'll handle it like a boss. By sending in James Taylor, and starting a hashtag.
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2015, 12:38:24 AM »
Quote from: RevDisk on June 26, 2015, 09:49:57 PM
Think I'm one of the few that thinks we should stay out of it. At best, bomb the known ISIS strongholds to hell and/or run our troops through them as quickly as possible. Then immediately leave. Repeat as necessary. US military is quite good at breaking things and killing people. It absolutely sucks at occupation and politics.

I haven't seen anyone in this thread advocating that we get into it.
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2015, 05:26:56 PM »
Quote from: never_retreat on June 26, 2015, 09:59:02 PM
I'm going to be really upset if France is the first one to actually take the gloves off.

I got a feeling the French would be utterly vicious if they needed to be.
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2015, 10:38:35 PM »
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I got a feeling the French would be utterly vicious if they needed to be.

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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2015, 02:06:52 AM »
We had a chance to stop this stuff cold after 9-11 and blew it big time.
Tokugawa Ieyasu would have had no problem whatsoever dealing with this crap.
Our stupid snowflake western morality has left us limp.

So we did nothing effective, killed a random load of them, got a load of our troops killed and wounded , and have nothing to show for it, when it could have been decisively won for the next hundred + years with the right application of force.  Now, by the time this flustercluck comes to an end, half the planet is gonna be depopulated all because we lacked the stones to do what had to be done.
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Re: ISIS coordinates (update) 4 terror attacks in 4 countries >200 dead
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2015, 06:36:32 AM »
Quote from: tokugawa on June 29, 2015, 02:06:52 AM
it could have been decisively won for the next hundred + years with the right application of force. 

I would be interested in your concept of "the right application of force".

These are not countries we would be dealing with.  There is no political department that would/could declare "enough" and sue for peace and agree to surrender terms.  While creating a jihadifrei space is going to be relatively easy, maintaining it is going to be a lifetime slog that will cost more (not in dollars but emotions and morals) than I think our politicians are willing to even seriously consider.

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