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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2015, 08:56:22 PM »
Cruz impressed me most during the Q&A at CPAC.  He would fillet Hillary in a debate. 
True, but then the handlers would get ahold of him after the first debate and he'd crash and burn.

I'm ok with Cruz, but there's just something about him that makes me not cheer him on. I don't know what it is, he just pegs my mehometer. Of the two I like Rand better though he's not presented things the best. I'd still vote for either. As for Trump I don't see voting for him in a primary. But I'd vote for him in a general instead of saying *expletive deleted*ck it, just for pure entertainment. Jeb? Jeb will actually be one to make me say *expletive deleted*ck it and stay home with a bottle.


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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2015, 11:04:16 PM »
True, but then the handlers would get ahold of him after the first debate and he'd crash and burn.

I'm ok with Cruz, but there's just something about him that makes me not cheer him on. I don't know what it is, he just pegs my mehometer. Of the two I like Rand better though he's not presented things the best. I'd still vote for either. As for Trump I don't see voting for him in a primary. But I'd vote for him in a general instead of saying *expletive deleted*ck it, just for pure entertainment. Jeb? Jeb will actually be one to make me say *expletive deleted*ck it and stay home with a bottle.


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Your sentiments are similar to mine.
I intend to vote for Rand in the primary.  If he's bowed out, then I'll vote for Cruz.  After that.....I'm probably abstaining from the primary.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2015, 11:15:48 PM »
Cruz impressed me most during the Q&A at CPAC.  He would fillet Hillary in a debate. 

That would just be another chapter in the GOP's war on women.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2015, 12:26:05 AM »
I would vote Trump because he has been right on the national issue for years.  And because it would cause so many folks aneurisms in the GOP and Dem parties and MSM.  Maybe even cause the two-party system to bust up.

I could vote for Cruz, too, in the hopes his being born again on immigration might be sincere.

None of the others would get my vote.  If any the others won as GOP POTUS candidate I would vote third party or stay home.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2015, 09:56:27 AM »
I would vote Trump because he has been right on the national issue for years. 

He's the only candidate so far that has any interest in not destroying America.
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2015, 10:22:14 AM »
Trust Trump? I don't think so. He is a fan of Kelo and expansive government eminent domain powers.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/04/22/donald_trumps_eminent-domain_empire_109624.html

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2015, 10:30:04 AM »
Ron is 100% correct.

Trump is a major crony capitalist who thinks the gov should help rich people screw over the little guy (or gal, like Vera Coking, the lady he attempted to rob via eminent domain).

He is a vile, vile person.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2015, 10:48:00 AM »
Trust Trump? I don't think so. He is a fan of Kelo and expansive government eminent domain powers. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/04/22/donald_trumps_eminent-domain_empire_109624.html

http://www.ij.org/casino-reinvestment-development-authority-v-coking

Yep, that is the GOPer party line being used now to cleave grass-roots GOPers from Trump who like what they see.  Read it in Goldberg's column, and others, too.  Condemning Trump for his rrrrracissss views on immigration by the GOP donor-party drones backfired.  So the new attack, coordinated by GOPer leadership, is now Kelo/eminent domain.

Guess what?  Eminent domain is a lesser issue relative to the national question.  The GOP/donor party advocates for mass immigration because it benefits them.  Trump advocates for broad eminent domain power because it benefits him.  ED has both a smaller deleterious effect and can be countered, for the most part, at the state level.  Population replacement immigration by those who hate real Americans can not.

Note, Trump is also relative pro-homosexual.  But the GOPer water-carriers have not made a big deal of that like they did Kelo/ED.  Why would that be, I wonder?
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2015, 11:06:20 AM »


Guess what?  Eminent domain is a lesser issue relative to the national question.  The GOP/donor party advocates for mass immigration because it benefits them.  Trump advocates for broad eminent domain power because it benefits him.  ED has both a smaller deleterious effect and can be countered, for the most part, at the state level.  Population replacement immigration by those who hate real Americans can not.



THAT.

Eminent domain issues can be dealt with with elections, and at least 'victims' are compensated for their losses. Illegal immigration is hugely destructive and the victims will only continue to pay more and more because of it.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2015, 11:36:51 AM »
If someone is weak on national sovereignty, property rights or religious liberty why are we even contemplating voting for them?

Trump is a crony capitalist who if given a good enough deal would sell us out on the border issue. He is one of them, he's just working a different angle. Nothing about the man is trustworthy IMHO.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2015, 03:44:41 PM »
Because unless you feel like running yourself good luck on finding someone that you feel is 100% on every issue?


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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2015, 03:56:39 PM »
Because unless you feel like running yourself good luck on finding someone that you feel is 100% on every issue?


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These folks running for prez are bad on very fundamental issues.

National sovereignty and property rights shouldn't be on the table for compromise.

I've been holding my nose voting for Republicans my whole life and I've decided it is a losing tactic.

I can lose and be culpable (due to my vote) or I can lose knowing I didn't assent to the madness.  
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2015, 05:38:45 PM »
These folks running for prez are bad on very fundamental issues.

National sovereignty and property rights shouldn't be on the table for compromise.

I've been holding my nose voting for Republicans my whole life and I've decided it is a losing tactic.

I can lose and be culpable (due to my vote) or I can lose knowing I didn't assent to the madness.  

National sovereignty is one of Trump's positives.  Eminent Domain, not so much.  Like I wrote earlier, most the GOP candidates are unacceptable to me.  At the very least they need to be on board with the national question. 

Who knows if Trump will even stick with it, he may be doing this for shits & giggles.  Even so, we owe him thanks for elevating the issue.

Last, ED came out so quickly and from so many sources, it is almost certainly a planted story by GOP leadership and donors. 
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2015, 05:51:21 PM »
The ED abbreviation brought to mind Electile Dysfunction. Seems appropriate given the inability of government to perform its proper functions and the flaccid "leadership" we have now and can look forward to.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2015, 06:19:15 PM »
The ED abbreviation brought to mind Electile Dysfunction. Seems appropriate given the inability of government to perform its proper functions and the flaccid "leadership" we have now and can look forward to.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2015, 06:20:19 PM »
And they're all dicks.

We all know that, but nothing ever comes of it.
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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2015, 06:53:12 PM »
If his goal is to make illegal immigration an issue this election season and then is going to go away, bravo to him.

 
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2015, 07:54:20 PM »
Yep, that is the GOPer party line being used now to cleave grass-roots GOPers from Trump who like what they see.  Read it in Goldberg's column, and others, too.  Condemning Trump for his rrrrracissss views on immigration by the GOP donor-party drones backfired.  So the new attack, coordinated by GOPer leadership, is now Kelo/eminent domain.

Guess what?  Eminent domain is a lesser issue relative to the national question.  The GOP/donor party advocates for mass immigration because it benefits them.  Trump advocates for broad eminent domain power because it benefits him.  ED has both a smaller deleterious effect and can be countered, for the most part, at the state level.  Population replacement immigration by those who hate real Americans can not.

Note, Trump is also relative pro-homosexual.  But the GOPer water-carriers have not made a big deal of that like they did Kelo/ED.  Why would that be, I wonder?

At least 42 states (including Illinois) have anti-Kelo laws.  So unless the Fed.gov starts grabbing property to hand over to private entities it's pretty much a non-issue.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2015, 07:57:30 PM »
Anyone know where he stands on H1B's? That particular issue has kind of spoiled both Cruz, and Paul for me.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2015, 11:28:31 PM »


Anyone know where he stands on H1B's? That particular issue has kind of spoiled both Cruz, and Paul for me.

Same here, on all counts.

If his goal is to make illegal immigration an issue this election season and then is going to go away, bravo to him.

Given the other candidates, why should he be the one who goes away?  Most are completely unacceptable to me and are even worse than Trump.

1. ¡JEB! likes Mexicans more than Americans and seeks to replace us with his wife's kind.  He got his break with one of his dad's cronies.  He made his big money in the cocaine-fueled 1980s Miami real estate market.  Assimilated to his wife's culture and did not make her assimilate to American culture.  Typical neocon on foreign affairs.

2. Rand Paul.  Pro-Amnesty, pro-H1B.  IOW, not interested int eh national question.  No executive/leadership experience.

3. Perry.  Used to be pro-Amnesty & generally soft on illegals. 

4. Rubio.  No executive/leadership experience.  A dim bulb, just not smart enough.  Hispanderer like ¡JEB!

5. Cruz.  No executive/leadership experience. Super smart, though.  A term as VPOTUS or as secretary of state would do him some good.

6. Christie.  I want another NE GOPer donor fellator like I want a rash on my backside.

7....

I could go on, but most all the GOP candidates have some serious problems.  Some with ideology, some with experience, some because they are bought & paid for.  Trump is better than most of them.  Doesn't make him terrific.  But he seems to actually like America and has made that plain for years.  We will see.  He has made the race more interesting.  Actually piqued my interest a bit.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2015, 12:00:50 AM »
Yea, I suspect none of the Republicans if they win are going to reverse the fundamentally changed America.

Walker originally caught my attention, then Cruz.

At least those two have been conservatives their whole public life. Not sure you can say that about Trump.

Should be entertaining if nothing else.

 
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2015, 12:01:30 AM »
Trust Trump? I don't think so. He is a fan of Kelo and expansive government eminent domain powers.

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Right.

Anybody have any photos of what that area of New London looks like today?
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2015, 12:04:54 AM »
Yea, I suspect none of the Republicans if they win are going to reverse the fundamentally changed America.

Walker originally caught my attention, then Cruz.

At least those two have been conservatives their whole public life. Not sure you can say that about Trump.

Should be entertaining if nothing else.

 

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« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2015, 12:50:50 AM »
Doesn't matter much who gets the Republican nomination as Republicans are no longer electable as POTUS.  That tipping point was passed in 2012, in my opinion.  The FSA/47%/leftists/Democrat vote fraud/etc., will be electing Democrats as POTUS from this point forward to the eventual fall of the Republic.
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« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2015, 08:05:28 AM »
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1. ¡JEB! likes Mexicans more than Americans and seeks to replace us with his wife's kind.  He got his break with one of his dad's cronies.  He made his big money in the cocaine-fueled 1980s Miami real estate market.  Assimilated to his wife's culture and did not make her assimilate to American culture.  Typical neocon on foreign affairs.

2. Rand Paul.  Pro-Amnesty, pro-H1B.  IOW, not interested int eh national question.  No executive/leadership experience.

3. Perry.  Used to be pro-Amnesty & generally soft on illegals. 

4. Rubio.  No executive/leadership experience.  A dim bulb, just not smart enough.  Hispanderer like ¡JEB!

5. Cruz.  No executive/leadership experience. Super smart, though.  A term as VPOTUS or as secretary of state would do him some good.

6. Christie.  I want another NE GOPer donor fellator like I want a rash on my backside.

7....

Gee, same was said about the current President.
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