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Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« on: July 30, 2015, 09:15:19 AM »
I've got some nasty poison ivy in my yard.

It is, unfortunately, about 20 yards from my peach trees, though. Any weed killers I should not use to protect the young (two year old) trees?
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2015, 12:50:39 PM »
Don't use 2,4-d esters, especially on a hot day.  The amine formulation (which is more common anyway) is okay if you are careful and don't use too much, and avoid overspray.  I *think* triclopyr has the same precautions.

How much poison ivy?  Can you use Roundup, or do you need to protect the grass?
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2015, 02:11:05 PM »
Don't use 2,4-d esters, especially on a hot day.  The amine formulation (which is more common anyway) is okay if you are careful and don't use too much, and avoid overspray.  I *think* triclopyr has the same precautions.

How much poison ivy?  Can you use Roundup, or do you need to protect the grass?

No grass to worry about, it's poison ivy mixed with regular ivy and I don't care if that stuff all dies.
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2015, 03:25:18 PM »
Kill it with fire then salt the earth.
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2015, 03:31:21 PM »
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2015, 03:31:45 PM »
Get a Glock.

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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2015, 03:54:36 PM »
Detcord.

Or this simple, selective weed killer: http://www.harborfreight.com/propane-torch-91033.html

Either way, wear a respirator.

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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2015, 04:07:17 PM »
Detcord.

Or this simple, selective weed killer: http://www.harborfreight.com/propane-torch-91033.html

Either way, wear a respirator.

^this, but I'd step up the quality a little for a flammenwerfer, this one has a regulator next to the tank:

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Dragon-VT-2-23-000-BTU/dp/B00004Z2FP
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2015, 04:23:26 PM »
^this, but I'd step up the quality a little for a flammenwerfer, this one has a regulator next to the tank:

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Dragon-VT-2-23-000-BTU/dp/B00004Z2FP

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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2015, 04:37:51 PM »
This has the right ingredient:
http://www.ortho.com/smg/gocat/ortho-poison-ivy-killers/cat50072

It will work the best if you can cut the stuff off close to the ground and pull it out of there, then spray or brush the 8% concentrate directly on the little stumps.  (also works for fresh-cut buckthorn and other sapling stumps)
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2015, 10:19:30 PM »
I'm a Harley Quinn man myself.

Lol. For some reason for a second when I clicked this I was thinking this was going to be something about batman. :laugh:
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2015, 10:36:51 PM »
Kill it with fire then salt the earth.

Poison Ivy + Fire is a really, really bad combination. Like deadly bad.

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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2015, 11:44:49 PM »
Kill it with fire then salt the earth.

Ummm ... One does NOT burn poison ivy. Trust me on this.
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2015, 12:02:14 AM »
I've never tried killing poison ivy and herbicides aren't really a big part of my job because I grow plants, not kill them.

That said I'd try this:  http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/bonide-poison-ivy-brush-killer-bk-32-concentrate

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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2015, 12:11:33 AM »
Yeah. While I'm usually in favor of fire, burning poison ivy is bad m'kay?

All the crap that makes you itch and rashy? Have fun with the vapor from it in your lungs.


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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2015, 12:35:50 AM »
Ummm ... One does NOT burn poison ivy. Trust me on this.

Or drag a log to the fire without identifying that stuff that *may* be poison oak on it. You especially do not want to drain the beer you have been drinking into the fire as you turn in for the night...... trust me on this one, you really don't need to try it to determine what it will do.  :O


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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2015, 06:29:01 AM »
Get a horse!

No, I'm not being a crotchety old fart.  Horses, for some reason, are not affected by poison ivy and seem to love the stuff.

Although there are the downsides of having to explain why an 11-year old girl in extremely tight pants is in your yard, and then why said girl has blisters all over her face (from loving on her horse after it has eaten poison ivy).

And yes, itchy-making stuff that does so via contact with sap/resin is about the last thing you want to burn.  It aresolizes the stuff and lets it be carried on the wind.  It is very hard even for doctors who specialize in lung stuff to spread calamine lotion on lungs.  And the neighbors downwind from your little bonfire are going to want several pieces of you and your wallet.  Ask me how the rich (formerly filthy rich) hobby farmer I worked for one summer knows about that after ordering his foreman to burn out a patch of the stuff.

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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2015, 07:39:41 AM »
I just hit it with glyphosate (generic round up), it dies.  20 yards away from something you don't want hurt is plenty far enough unless you are out spraying in a strong wind and just flinging the stuff into the air.
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2015, 09:32:20 AM »
While weed whipping around some trailer in the boneyard, I found myself standing in a patch of ankle high poison ivy.  An immediate rundown with the neutralizer "Technu" and a cold shower helped, but 5 days later, like a clock works, the telltale blisters formed on the side of my face from ear to Adam's Apple.

Chemical treatment is my preferred method. Apply, wait, repeat.  If you know what surgactants, spreader stickers, or crop oils are, this is an appropriate application for such an adjuvant, as the leaves are getting that waxy coating this time of year.  Even a tank mix of broad spectrum and selectives may be warranted.  Use a fine mist, apply to foliage to the point of runoff, that is a drop of the herbicide spray falling off the tip of each leaf.

In all herbicide applications, I recommend heavy watering and fertilization of the target species before application.  Get the growth in High gear and systemic herbicides will be more effectiva.
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2015, 09:50:33 AM »
All the crap that makes you itch and rashy? Have fun with the vapor from it in your lungs.

Hence my "wear a respirator" advice.

A full chemsuit wouldn't be a bad idea if you have one, but folks around here have been burning the stuff off for a couple centuries now by staying upwind and wearing PPE as primitive as a wet bandana over the mouth and nose.

Wash all your clothes in Sport Wash, Ultra Dawn or real soap as soon as you're done, too. 

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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2015, 11:08:53 AM »
While weed whipping around some trailer in the boneyard, I found myself standing in a patch of ankle high poison ivy.  An immediate rundown with the neutralizer "Technu" and a cold shower helped, but 5 days later, like a clock works, the telltale blisters formed on the side of my face from ear to Adam's Apple.

Chemical treatment is my preferred method. Apply, wait, repeat.  If you know what surgactants, spreader stickers, or crop oils are, this is an appropriate application for such an adjuvant, as the leaves are getting that waxy coating this time of year.  Even a tank mix of broad spectrum and selectives may be warranted.  Use a fine mist, apply to foliage to the point of runoff, that is a drop of the herbicide spray falling off the tip of each leaf.

In all herbicide applications, I recommend heavy watering and fertilization of the target species before application.  Get the growth in High gear and systemic herbicides will be more effectiva.

If it has waxy leaves (I haven't messed with poison ivy in years) Crossbow® should be really good because it will penetrate thru the wax (if it doesn't all run off), but use it when there's a breeze blowing away from your fruit trees, or use it in cool weather.

I have a little bottle of surfactant but I never use it; I use a drop of Dawn dish detergent per gallon. 

BTW, I really don't use many pesticides/herbicides  :lol:  I just have a stockpile of them and I'm not bashful about using the strong ones when I need to.
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2015, 01:34:21 PM »
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2015, 02:44:29 PM »
I've never tried killing poison ivy and herbicides aren't really a big part of my job because I grow plants, not kill them.

That said I'd try this:  http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/bonide-poison-ivy-brush-killer-bk-32-concentrate

Am I correct that this would be death on anything broad-leaf, and be okay with grass like 2-4-D is?

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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2015, 03:04:18 PM »
Am I correct that this would be death on anything broad-leaf, and be okay with grass like 2-4-D is?


That is 2,4-D, spiked with a little Triclopyr and Dicamba.  It should be safe for grass, except St Augustine.
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Re: Another "Paging Gigabuist" thread- Poison Ivy
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2015, 03:35:06 PM »
That is 2,4-D, spiked with a little Triclopyr and Dicamba.  It should be safe for grass, except St Augustine.

Ohhh... the MCPA... that IS 2,4-D I'd never heard of it as that before.

I have some persistent clover and other weeds that the 1 gallon hand-sprayer Ortho products never get rid of completely.
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