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Question: Impossible
« on: July 31, 2015, 06:53:53 PM »
Would you rather watch every Tom Cruise Mission: Impossible film, or watch an equivalent run-time collection of the best Peter Graves Mission: Impossible television episodes?

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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2015, 07:30:42 PM »
I'd rather drill my skull with a teaspoon.
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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2015, 07:56:37 PM »
I'd rather drill my skull with a teaspoon.

I'd watch that, no problem. Even bring my own beer.

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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2015, 09:23:47 PM »
I'd rather drill my skull with a teaspoon.

I even pay to watch it that.


But getting back to the OP.  Peter Graves, hands down...
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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2015, 09:49:32 PM »
Who's this Peter Graves guy? Martin Landau was the star of that show.

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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2015, 10:00:59 PM »
Who was the strongman that was part of the team for a while?  I remember one episode where they stole recovered a bunch of gold by raising the temp in the vault where it was kept so it would drain out. Then they molded it into blocks about the size of a basketball.  Strongman was able to carry those.   ;/
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2015, 10:48:41 PM »
Who was the strongman that was part of the team for a while?  I remember one episode where they stole recovered a bunch of gold by raising the temp in the vault where it was kept so it would drain out. Then they molded it into blocks about the size of a basketball.  Strongman was able to carry those.   ;/

Peter Lupus.  He also played Norberg on Police Squad.
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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2015, 11:17:42 PM »
Who's this Peter Graves guy? Martin Landau was the star of that show.

So how come Martin Landau only lasted one season? (Or was it two?)

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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2015, 11:20:54 PM »
I even pay to watch it that.

Hey, I'll chip in the teaspoon  :angel:
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2015, 11:35:44 PM »
So how come Martin Landau only lasted one season? (Or was it two?)

Graves vs. Cruise? Graves for the win.

Per IMDB:  Graves was in 143, Landau was in 76.  Greg Morris was the real star.  He was in 171 episodes.
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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2015, 11:45:42 PM »
Per IMDB:  Graves was in 143, Landau was in 76.  Greg Morris was the real star.  He was in 171 episodes.


I liked Barney, because he did the cool engineering-type stuff. In the two episodes I've seen. Besides, in my upbringing, anyone not-white was an intriguing curiosity.
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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2015, 11:47:40 PM »
I love the old show. In fact a love a lot of the old stuff from back before the nanny state\lefty mewling started taking hold.

People, even kids, handling firearms! Adult beverages, sexy women, smoking, furs, not apologizing for having "incorrect" attitudes, and so forth.

Plus MI: 1 was horrible in every aspect. 2 also sucked. 3 was okay and 4 was all right. Whereas the series, while hit and miss, had far more gems than turds.
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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2015, 12:35:58 AM »
Peter Lupus.  He also played Norberg on Police Squad.

Thanks.  Guess I could have Binged that, huh?  Though my point was more the 600+ pound slabs of gold he toted around.
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2015, 01:31:37 AM »
Thanks.  Guess I could have Binged that, huh?  Though my point was more the 600+ pound slabs of gold he toted around.

In the original M.I., Willie Armitage (Lupus) was billed as the strongest man in the world. In fact, that wasn't far from being correct.
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2015, 02:20:55 AM »
No mention of Leonard Nimoy as the amazing Paris?

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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2015, 07:51:36 AM »
Thanks.  Guess I could have Binged that, huh?  Though my point was more the 600+ pound slabs of gold he toted around.
A gold official-size Basketball would only be a hair over 300lbs

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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2015, 09:58:59 AM »
No mention of Leonard Nimoy as the amazing Paris?

He was only there for two seasons, too, IIRC. But I thought Paris was great.
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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2015, 01:30:39 PM »
A gold official-size Basketball would only be a hair over 300lbs

Timeout!  I'm gonna declare a fudge-factor.  Birdman is correct, of course.  However, my original words were not precise.  I referred to "blocks about the size of a basketball".  If we take the shape of a block (maybe a cube?) and the size of a basketball (9.5") and figure the weight of a  857.4 cubic inch mass of gold, we get a bit heavier results... around 597 pounds. 

And, though it was @% years ago, my memory does recall the molded shapes being roughly cubic, and about the size of a basketball.  If that makes sense.
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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2015, 02:11:01 PM »
I don't recall that episode, how big was the vault? Because getting something of X size to @2000 degrees for the length of time to melt the contents would take quite a lot of fuel and time. The surrounding area would be at risk of ignition as well, and if you overshoot you'll melt the vault itself. I don't know at what temp concrete starts to fail but it's likely before the gold starts to melt so the vault would fall through the floor before you even got the gold melted.
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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2015, 03:28:49 PM »
I don't recall that episode, how big was the vault? Because getting something of X size to @2000 degrees for the length of time to melt the contents would take quite a lot of fuel and time. The surrounding area would be at risk of ignition as well, and if you overshoot you'll melt the vault itself. I don't know at what temp concrete starts to fail but it's likely before the gold starts to melt so the vault would fall through the floor before you even got the gold melted.

Check it out.  Season 3, episode 4.  "The Mercenaries"  Amazon Prime link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HFVWG4/ref=dv_dp_ep4

ETA screenshot of the molding of the melt:

So my memory sucked re: the molded blocks.
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2015, 03:58:45 PM »
I don't recall that episode, how big was the vault? Because getting something of X size to @2000 degrees for the length of time to melt the contents would take quite a lot of fuel and time. The surrounding area would be at risk of ignition as well, and if you overshoot you'll melt the vault itself. I don't know at what temp concrete starts to fail but it's likely before the gold starts to melt so the vault would fall through the floor before you even got the gold melted.
I remember that episode - I remember reading that while their prop men built resistance coils that got hot and glowed, the "gold" that was melted out and drained through the lowest part of the vault was actually ice cream!

Also - wasn't Mr. Phelps (Peter Graves) actually the second leader of the IMF strike force? I believe he had a predecessor for a season or two - "Mr. Briggs." Don't remember the actor's name . . .

And of course Martin Landau and Barbara Bain were married in real life - didn't they both move on to the long running critical smash hit TV series "Space: 1999?"

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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2015, 05:09:33 PM »
A gold official-size Basketball would only be a hair over 300lbs

That's what I figured, just for funsies, but didn't feel like checking my arithmetic.  I got 313 lb for a regulation NBA basketball.

Don't know the approximate dimensions of the "block" of gold he hefted around, not having seen that particular episode.  (ETA: posted before I saw the photos above.)

However, it was like figuring the weight of Thor's Hammer in cartoon depictions of Thor.... i.e., kind of pointless.

I liked the show, but I always had trouble with how they managed to plan that stuff out so exquisitely in (usually) less than 24 hrs.  That always challenged my "suspension of reality" neuron-set.

I mean, like all of a sudden Greg Morris is inside the antagonist's building tinkering with wires and chips and valves and pipes and whatnot...  how'd he get in there?

On thing I saw which I did like (if it was from MI) was them freezing some piping to stop some kind of flow or other by spraying either CO2 or LN2 on the pipes from outside the fence.  I thought that was cool. <micropun

The show was pretty enjoyable except for the occasional extreme stretching of my imagination muscles. Ow.

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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2015, 05:39:00 PM »
That's what I figured, but didn't feel like checking my arithmetic.  I got 313 lb for a regulation NBA basketball.
I got 301.6, 29.5" circumference (the actual reg, which is like 9.4 not 9.5, which explains the ~3-3.5% difference.

Anyway, semantics...or $250,000 difference...whatevs :)

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« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2015, 06:09:32 PM »
^  Welcome, fellow ciphernerd !  :rofl:

From what I read, the diameter varies slightly, so I picked 9.5" arbitrarily for the just-for-funsies calculation.

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I'm always amused when people say, "gold is up to $1390 an ounce," when the reality is that the dollar's worth is down to 1/1390th an ounce of gold.  (Not a London price-fix, just an arbitrary number.)
 
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Re: Question: Impossible
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2015, 08:31:49 PM »
Check it out.  Season 3, episode 4.  "The Mercenaries"  Amazon Prime link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005HFVWG4/ref=dv_dp_ep4

ETA screenshot of the molding of the melt:

So my memory sucked re: the molded blocks.


So the molten gold is being piped in rubber hoses, and he's handling the nozzle without asbestos or leather gloves?   ;/
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