How to prevent our daughters from being sexually assaulted at college -

[vaskidmark]

At last - a way to stop the travesty of 1 out of 5 females being sexually assaulted at college.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0ShuCkqHUQ

stay safe.

[Firethorn]

Funny, I was hoping for it to turn into a campus carry ad, not a online college one.

Still, a bit of reality on that '1 in 5' myth:

1.  The rate of sexual assault isn't 20%.  It's only 20% if you go by SJW definitions of it.
2.  Send your daughters to college.  They're safer there..

Seriously, women who don't go to college are more likely to be assaulted than those are do.  The myth that women are more likely to be raped if they go to college is, I think, a dangerous one.

Non-college females: 7.6 assaults per 1k
College attending females: 6.1 per 1k.

If you figure on an average of 5 years in college*, that's only a 3% chance of being assaulted during her time there.

*Splitting the difference between associates, bachelor, master, and doctorate, with some accounting for failed classes or just being slow/taking an easy course load.

[230RN]

Studies show that 63.212031137% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Terry

REFs:
(1) Studies conducted by the Two-Thirty-RN Institute, Golden CO.
(2) Or approximately (1 - 1/e) in the northern hemisphere.  (Seasonally adjusted.)

[Mannlicher]

common sense answer is to raise your daughter correctly in the first place.  Then they won't be drunk in bars late at night, hooking up with strangers, using drugs and acting the fool.
That would stop about 98% of college sexual assaults. 

[Perd Hapley]

common sense answer is to raise your daughter correctly in the first place.  Then they won't be drunk in bars late at night, hooking up with strangers, using drugs and acting the fool.
That would stop about 98% of college sexual assaults. 

[shriek] How dare you offer advice?! That's victim-blaming!

[roo_ster]

common sense answer is to raise your daughter correctly in the first place.  Then they won't be drunk in bars late at night, hooking up with strangers, using drugs and acting the fool.
That would stop about 98% of college sexual assaults. 

Quoted for truth.

Also, we plan to train our daughter in the use of knives, firearms, and field-expedient objects for self-defense.

[SADShooter]

Quoted for truth.

Also, we plan to train our daughter in the use of knives, firearms, and field-expedient objects for self-defense.

And this. A vehement knee to the groin or Vulcan salutation delivered to the eye sockets of the miscreant should facilitate escape in many instances and serve as a future deterrent.

[Perd Hapley]

Quoted for truth.

Also, we plan to train our daughter in the use of knives, firearms, and field-expedient objects for self-defense.

I thought chicks were naturally adept at anger-chucking shoes and dinner plates and such.

[KD5NRH]

common sense answer is to raise your daughter correctly in the first place.  Then they won't be drunk in bars late at night, hooking up with strangers, using drugs and acting the fool.

This.  Last "rape" complaint I heard involved the "victim" drunkenly inviting the "rapist" to stay the night in her bed after he carried her up the stairs to her apartment.  She says she passed out while he was still in the bathroom and only figured out what happened the next morning.

Not that I condone molesting unconscious women, but I can certainly see the (also pretty drunk) guy's logic that an invitation to sleep with her might also be an invitation to sleep with her.

[Hawkmoon]

This.  Last "rape" complaint I heard involved the "victim" drunkenly inviting the "rapist" to stay the night in her bed after he carried her up the stairs to her apartment.  She says she passed out while he was still in the bathroom and only figured out what happened the next morning.

Not that I condone molesting unconscious women, but I can certainly see the (also pretty drunk) guy's logic that an invitation to sleep with her might also be an invitation to sleep with her.

I'm one of the certified olde phartes around here. One of the few things I remember from high school French class is "Voulez vous couchez avec mois?" (okay, that wasn't directly from the textbook), and I am certainly old enough to remember when "Ouis" meant "Ouis," not "Non" or "Peut etre" or "Je ne sais pas" ...

[KD5NRH]

I'm one of the certified olde phartes around here. One of the few things I remember from high school French class is "Voulez vous couchez avec mois?" (okay, that wasn't directly from the textbook), and I am certainly old enough to remember when "Ouis" meant "Ouis," not "Non" or "Peut etre" or "Je ne sais pas" ...

Now granted, I've shared a bed (and nothing more) for a night with plenty of female friends, including several I was quite attracted to, but I know how this girl acts when she's drunk, and back when I drank I probably would have taken it as consent too, though I wouldn't have pursued it after she passed out.

[Jamisjockey]

This.  Last "rape" complaint I heard involved the "victim" drunkenly inviting the "rapist" to stay the night in her bed after he carried her up the stairs to her apartment.  She says she passed out while he was still in the bathroom and only figured out what happened the next morning.

Not that I condone molesting unconscious women, but I can certainly see the (also pretty drunk) guy's logic that an invitation to sleep with her might also be an invitation to sleep with her.

The hypocrisy of the drunk rape thing is that the guys are usually drunk, and making bad decisions themselves. 

[erictank]

Quoted for truth.

Also, we plan to train our daughter in the use of knives, firearms, and field-expedient objects for self-defense.

Insert Orson Welles clapping GIF here.

[erictank]

The hypocrisy of the drunk rape thing is that the guys are usually drunk, and making bad decisions themselves. 

Doesn't matter.  Still his fault.  ALWAYS his fault, NEVER hers.

There's a case making the rounds now about a guy who got blackout drunk, exerted no force against anyone; a woman OF HER OWN ACCORD decided to perform oral on him while he was thus incapacitated.

The school expelled HIM - there was a sexual assault, he was involved, and was the one who was drunk.  Because his judgment was impaired, he's automatically at fault under the school's policies.  For being raped. 

Another case which may be settled now, both parties were drunk out of their minds, according to all witnesses.  Both parties physically and verbally consented to sex, of their own free will with no coercion - again, according to all witnesses including the roommate who was pissed they were being so loud.  She changed her mind over the next week IIRC, charged him with rape.  Police investigation took two months, turned up no evidence of rape, and closed the case.  So she took it to the school, and got him expelled.  She got not so much as a slap on the wrist, he got screwed over by a woman who suffered from buyer's remorse and wanted to make it not have happened, retroactively.  And thanks to Title IX, she gets to do just that, with the school's wholehearted support, regardless of the fact that evidently, no crime actually took place that night.

In both cases, the male victim is (or has been) in the process of suing the school for violation of his civil rights, as well as breach of contract, etc.

[sanglant]

Arm her.


First with truth, i'll leave that to my betters.

Next with knowledge, where not to go. Where to go only in a group. How to fight back when needed.

Then with the weapons that fly under the radar, the keyring the umbrella (let me know if you find a good one, vents a plus). Pepper spray, kabar ice scraper. Maybe even hairspray and a lighter.

Also choose a good school, and prayer.

[erictank]

Kabar makes an ice scraper?  I must look into this.

Thanking whatever deity may be listening that my stepdaughter (moved into JMU yesterday with STBX's help) is a second-degree black belt, and not a shy, retiring, non-confrontational type who "wouldn't hurt a fly".  Will have to make sure she gets some of those under-the-radar tools.

[BlueStarLizzard]

This.  Last "rape" complaint I heard involved the "victim" drunkenly inviting the "rapist" to stay the night in her bed after he carried her up the stairs to her apartment.  She says she passed out while he was still in the bathroom and only figured out what happened the next morning.

Not that I condone molesting unconscious women, but I can certainly see the (also pretty drunk) guy's logic that an invitation to sleep with her might also be an invitation to sleep with her.

Did she pass our or did she black out? Either way, she wouldn't know what happened, and if she blacked out, who the hell know what she was doing.

I used to spend a lot of time with a guy who drank heavily. Several times he would wake up in the morning and be surprised to see me.
Except he was the one who called me and was the one starting things and since he never really acted drunk, I couldn't tell how far gone he was.

[vaskidmark]

Unbreakable umbrella - comes in both standard short spear/riot stick and collapsing baton models.

All the reviews say they do everything they claim - including keep the rain off.

http://unbreakableumbrella.com/

For those that are going to say something about the price - it's close to what you can get a High Point for, and those seem to go boom when you pull the activator lever as well as most of the "real" guns.

[KD5NRH]

Did she pass our or did she black out? Either way, she wouldn't know what happened, and if she blacked out, who the hell know what she was doing.

She probably blacked out.  I've seen her both ways; sometimes she's like a narcoleptic, out cold in mid sentence and pick it right back up when she wakes up, other times she will repeat the same sentence over and over because she can't remember she already said it.

[Hawkmoon]

How to prevent our daughters from being sexually assaulted at college

:duh:

Don't send 'em to college.

:duh:

[Hawkmoon]

Another case which may be settled now, both parties were drunk out of their minds, according to all witnesses.  Both parties physically and verbally consented to sex, of their own free will with no coercion - again, according to all witnesses including the roommate who was pissed they were being so loud.  She changed her mind over the next week IIRC, charged him with rape.  Police investigation took two months, turned up no evidence of rape, and closed the case.  So she took it to the school, and got him expelled.  She got not so much as a slap on the wrist, he got screwed over by a woman who suffered from buyer's remorse and wanted to make it not have happened, retroactively.  And thanks to Title IX, she gets to do just that, with the school's wholehearted support, regardless of the fact that evidently, no crime actually took place that night.

Are you referring to the "mattress girl" case?

[Viking]

Are you referring to the "mattress girl" case?

That guy was never expelled, which is the reason for her stunts.

[erictank]

Are you referring to the "mattress girl" case?

Nope.  Second case was at Occidental College in CA, in 2013 - both parties drunk out of their minds, he's the only one who got hammered by the school.  http://reason.com/blog/2014/06/04/occidental-expels-student-for-rape-under

First case was 2014, at... Amherst, that was it. http://reason.com/blog/2015/06/11/amherst-student-was-expelled-for-rape-bu

I didn't even think about Mattress Girl - which based on the released evidence seems to me like an open-and-shut case of harrassment - by HER.

There's an article about the overreach on this topic on SLATE, of all places: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/12/college_rape_campus_sexual_assault_is_a_serious_problem_but_the_efforts.html

[SADShooter]

Unbreakable umbrella - comes in both standard short spear/riot stick and collapsing baton models.

All the reviews say they do everything they claim - including keep the rain off.

http://unbreakableumbrella.com/

For those that are going to say something about the price - it's close to what you can get a High Point for, and those seem to go boom when you pull the activator lever as well as most of the "real" guns.

Thanks for that. More plausible as vehicle a weapon than the oft-mentioned Louisville Slugger, e-tool, etc.

[zahc]

I'm sure glad that women caught making false accusations go to prison and get branded as a sex offender forever.