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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2015, 04:34:54 PM »
How many gallons of water do you lose in the pool each day from evaporation? I live in a climate where a pool makes little sense since we really only have a 100 day window of use, so I don't know much about them.

It obviously doesn't drain. With a cap or plastic cover, you're not losing much. Couple hundred gallons per year max.

Open, in direct sun? Eh, maybe 20k gallons per year for a smaller pool. Minus whatever amount of rain you get.
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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2015, 10:33:47 PM »
Ok, how about a big surge in property taxes because you have a pool?

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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2015, 10:50:02 PM »
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I don't, but I do believe in clean sustainable drinking water.
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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2015, 10:55:47 PM »
Effective pricing cures all ills.

If ALL people had to pay the true cost of the water they used and people were free to bring things online to add more supply in the chase of profits we would not be in this situation.

Dams are one thing, aquaducts and pipelines are another and if the price still got high it might even make sense to load up tank cars and send water via rail.
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« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2015, 10:57:10 PM »
I don't, but I do believe in clean sustainable drinking water.

Several of nuke plants with reverse osmosis plants and we can have just about all the  clean drinking water (and fossil fuels) we could desire.  And reduce atmospheric CO2.
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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2015, 11:00:42 PM »
Several of nuke plants with reverse osmosis plants and we can have just about all the  clean drinking water (and fossil fuels) we could desire.  And reduce atmospheric CO2.
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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2015, 11:04:56 PM »
Several of nuke plants with reverse osmosis plants and we can have just about all the  clean drinking water (and fossil fuels) we could desire.  And reduce atmospheric CO2.

I wonder what the cost per gallon will be for that water once it is up and running?

Reverse osmosis doesn't require any energy to run it, just have water pumped through the membranes and filters. Probably don't need a nuke plant for that.
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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2015, 12:15:18 AM »
Effective pricing cures all ills.

If ALL people had to pay the true cost of the water they used and people were free to bring things online to add more supply in the chase of profits we would not be in this situation.

Dams are one thing, aquaducts and pipelines are another and if the price still got high it might even make sense to load up tank cars and send water via rail.
I heard a while back that most city water bills are inflated far above the actual cost.  I would be curious what the cost is.
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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2015, 12:19:36 AM »
Most of the cost is for sewage treatment


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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2015, 11:54:06 PM »
Reverse osmosis doesn't require any energy to run it, just have water pumped through the membranes and filters. Probably don't need a nuke plant for that.

Actually, RO requires a LOT of energy to run, because you need some very high pressures to push the water through the membranes. 

That being said, one of the advantages of a correctly designed nuclear plant is that you can use the 'waste' heat to distill water.  It takes more energy than RO, but only needs it in the form of relatively low grade heat, not electricity or steam for pumps.  So it's actually more efficient.

After that, it's just a question of scale.  You can run a really small RO system with a hand pump.  Supplying a city with water takes more.

That being said, supplying 'the people' with water has never really been an issue - they're willing to pay enough that there are many, many options.  It's the farms that are sucking up all the water, and they can't afford the prices for desalinated.

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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #60 on: September 28, 2015, 08:01:00 AM »
Most of the cost is for sewage treatment


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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2015, 01:27:16 PM »
I wonder what the cost per gallon will be for that water once it is up and running?

Reverse osmosis doesn't require any energy to run it, just have water pumped through the membranes and filters. Probably don't need a nuke plant for that.

Maybe so, but nukes would make it cooler.

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« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2015, 02:09:39 PM »
Maybe so, but nukes would make it cooler.

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« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2015, 03:16:08 PM »
Maybe so, but nukes would make it cooler.

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Re: Growing Number Believe California’s Drought Is A Government Conspiracy
« Reply #64 on: September 28, 2015, 03:57:29 PM »
The high cost of Nuclear Power is not in the actual building and running of the plant, it's in securing the necessary permits, then fighting all the legal battles that the enviro-nazis bring...
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