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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2016, 07:37:51 AM »
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2016, 10:38:22 AM »
I think arguing/fighting/debating the loss of Jackson is not worthwhile. It has been a done deal that a "diversity hire" would be put on a common bill. That battle has been lost. You win the war by embracing the fact that the diversity people chose Tubman, with a large portion of them not knowing who she was or what she did. She's a black woman and that's all that matters to them. The war is won because she's not someone like Margaret Sanger.

The thumbs up to Tubman by "the wrong people" makes progressive heads explode. It's a delicious irony that progressives support the choice based on the color of her skin, while conservatives and libertarians support the choice because of the content of her character. :)
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2016, 10:47:10 AM »
I believe I read/heard that Jackson was actually going to stay on the bill, just on the reverse.
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2016, 11:08:15 AM »

"The thumbs up to Tubman by "the wrong people" makes progressive heads explode. It's a delicious irony that progressives support the choice based on the color of her skin, while conservatives and libertarians support the choice because of the content of her character. Smiley"



The irony rather than burning is absolutely delicious. :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2016, 11:16:47 AM »
"The thumbs up to Tubman by "the wrong people" makes progressive heads explode."

Yep, it certainly does.

You see the kind of hate that Republican governors/politicians are getting for having the audacity to say that they like Prince's music.

Holy crap. Tolerant my ass.
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2016, 11:39:17 AM »
http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/dishonoring-general-jackson/


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I have enjoyed reading Morison's book, but Buchanan seems to be using it as an infallible guide to Important People in American History.
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2016, 05:00:19 PM »
I'd love to see Alvin York on a bill.


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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2016, 05:15:45 PM »
I'd love to see Alvin York on a bill.




And then we'd see an even bigger number of Google searches for "Who the &^%$ is Alvin York?"
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2016, 07:48:19 PM »

Agree on Eleanor Roosevelt; disagree on John Brown. Brown (and/or his fellows) killed a bunch of people. Did he free anybody, or actually help his own cause?

He's certainly more photogenic than Tubman ;) (so is Frederick Douglass)
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2016, 08:23:00 PM »
He's certainly more photogenic than Tubman ;) (so is Frederick Douglass)

He has crazy eyes...  [tinfoil]

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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2016, 01:35:06 PM »

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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2016, 01:49:42 PM »
Who uses twenties at a Strip club??
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2016, 01:53:42 PM »
Who uses twenties at a Strip club??

Someone with more money than sense... or someone who's just desperate...
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2016, 02:28:00 PM »
Who uses twenties at a Strip club??

Hey, it's not my fault you're a cheapskate.














(actually, I have no idea what the going rate is at strip clubs)
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2016, 05:21:41 PM »
Who uses twenties at a Strip club??

I thought that strip clubs were the last best place to use $2 bills.  But I cannot remember the last time I saw a $ 2 bill.
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2016, 08:03:12 PM »
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2016, 09:43:50 PM »
 

Do you think that the Trail of Tears was part of his "awesomeness"?

Yes, it was. 

Awesomeness, greatness, etc. is not necessarily a moral judgement. 
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2016, 09:49:31 PM »
Frankly, all this talk about "replacing a Democrat on the $20 with a black Republican gun-owner" is noise from the defeated trying to convince themselves they did not suffer a _resounding_ cultural defeat. 

We can sperg on the issue, but in the end all the vast majority will know or care about is that a white male president they know little about (save the trail of tears) was replaced by a black woman they also know little about.
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2016, 10:05:20 PM »
"Resounding"? "Cultural defeat"? Yeah, whatever. Am I supposed to consider Andrew Jackson to be part of my culture, but not Harriet Tubman? Is the face on the money supposed to be graved in stone, never to be changed? America has been through a lot of cultural defeat lately, but this? No.
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2016, 11:53:45 PM »
"Resounding"? "Cultural defeat"? Yeah, whatever. Am I supposed to consider Andrew Jackson to be part of my culture, but not Harriet Tubman? Is the face on the money supposed to be graved in stone, never to be changed? America has been through a lot of cultural defeat lately, but this? No.

cambeul41's post is evidence tot he contrary.

Defeat it is, and a victory for black armband history, despite the happy-talk and rationalizations. 
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2016, 09:39:39 AM »
Who uses twenties at a Strip club??
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2016, 01:33:23 PM »
I thought that strip clubs were the last best place to use $2 bills.  But I cannot remember the last time I saw a $ 2 bill.
The last time you looked at a stripper?
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2016, 02:06:16 PM »
Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.


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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2016, 04:48:05 PM »
I thought that strip clubs were the last best place to use $2 bills.  But I cannot remember the last time I saw a $ 2 bill.

You can get them at most banks.  I use them to tip van drivers at hotels.
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Re: Jackson's Out, Tubman's In
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2016, 08:46:03 PM »
Defeat it is, and a victory for black armband history, despite the happy-talk and rationalizations. 
Can you elaborate?