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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2016, 07:52:28 AM »
Quote from: wmenorr67 on July 21, 2016, 07:49:51 AM
Trump admitted he saw Cruz's speech two hours prior and let him speak anyway.

Think about that...... [tinfoil]

He let Cruz take enough rope with which to hang himself.
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« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2016, 07:54:22 AM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on July 21, 2016, 07:51:16 AM
Who backed out first?
Does it matter? All three did in march

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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2016, 07:54:59 AM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on July 21, 2016, 07:52:28 AM
He let Cruz take enough rope with which to hang himself.


Trump is puppet master....going to be interesting the next 3 months.

Can't wait what he does during the Dems' Convention.
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« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2016, 08:06:51 AM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on July 21, 2016, 07:54:22 AM
Does it matter? All three did in march

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Sure it matters, if Cruz and Kasich back out publicly first then Trump would have been insane to stick with it.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2016, 08:08:30 AM »
Quote from: wmenorr67 on July 21, 2016, 07:54:59 AM
Trump is puppet master....going to be interesting the next 3 months.

Can't wait what he does during the Dems' Convention.

Has Hillary and crew been making much noise about Trump during the RNC convention?
For my take, the classy thing to do would be to let them have their show and then go on the offensive.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2016, 08:13:59 AM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on July 21, 2016, 08:08:30 AM
Has Hillary and crew been making much noise about Trump during the RNC convention?
For my take, the classy thing to do would be to let them have their show and then go on the offensive.

Not a lot but there has been a few little squeaks from her camp.

You're right, normally the sides take a "hands" off approach during the other side's convention.

Just think that Trump won't.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2016, 08:14:27 AM »
This election is hilarious. We have Hillary supporters up in arms about Melania Trump's speech and calling for honesty and integrity and Trump supporters calling for candidates to "honor their word!" when a contract with Trump is treated as a negotiating position. (If you're building something for him...)
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« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2016, 08:18:19 AM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on July 21, 2016, 08:06:51 AM
Sure it matters, if Cruz and Kasich back out publicly first then Trump would have been insane to stick with it.
It seems, and I stress seems, that trump bailed first and definitively.
At least as I gather in the new Yorkagain piece.
Does that make him a bad guy or is there another trump loophole
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Does it matter? All three did in march

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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2016, 08:27:27 AM »
Quote from: makattak on July 21, 2016, 08:14:27 AM
This election is hilarious. We have Hillary supporters up in arms about Melania Trump's speech and calling for honesty and integrity and Trump supporters calling for candidates to "honor their word!" when a contract with Trump is treated as a negotiating position. (If you're building something for him...)

It's not the contract that's the problem.  It's the going to the event and pulling that move.

Part of me thinks trump may have wanted to remind people that the establishment hates him.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2016, 08:53:16 AM »
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And to those listening, please, don’t stay home in November. Stand, and speak, and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.

Ah, this is the line that's the problem.

He said "Vote your conscience" when he should have said "Forget all the rightful misgivings you have about Donald Trump and suck it up and vote for him! Because he's TOTALLY trustworthy!"
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2016, 08:56:34 AM »
Quote from: makattak on July 21, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
Ah, this is the line that's the problem.

He said "Vote your conscience" when he should have said "Forget all the rightful misgivings you have about Donald Trump and suck it up and vote for him! Because he's TOTALLY trustworthy!"

Yeah because trump has been so guarded the party voters had NO IDEA what they were voting for!

Definition of hilarious:  career politician who played every trick possible to subvert the will of voters imploring for conscience voting!

News flash:  they DID vote their conscience, which is why Ted isn't the nominee.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2016, 09:11:49 AM »
0.  I expected Ted to do what Ted thought best for Ted in the speech...and I was inclined to think that Ted would parley an endorsement for either a SCOTUS nom or an appointment to Attorney General.  The former is a terminal position, the latter left open further political climbing.  Ted would have made a good AG, especially if set after the Dem moles in gov't.

1. I don't think we'll have to worry about Ted Cruz (R-Uncanny Valley) getting a spot on SCOTUS or an appointment in the Trump Administration.

2. I also think that Cruz thought this a smart move, setting himself up for 2020 vs Trump or Hillary. 

3. Thing is, Ted is like Hillary in that the more folk see and hear him, they less they like him (see Uncanny Valley).  Ted does not have the MSM to drag his carcass over the finish line while shielding him from scrutiny as they do for Hillary.  Thus I doubt Ted will ever be POTUS and he has screwed himself good and hard with his no-endorsement speech.

4. I see about zero long term damage to Trump from Ted's shenanigans.  Trump beat Ted like a drum among Christian Conservatives in the primaries and he'll do even better vs Hillary.  Trump has not yet begin to play the fear card vs Hillary, as she has done to Trump. 

5. DS is correct in that Ted left open every possible construction of his words and action on immigration.  He is very (Bill) Clintonian that way.  Heck, he is even better than Bill at that game and smarter, too.  Sadly, Ted is lacking something human inside and has not learned to convincingly feign the whole panoply of human emotion and expression.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2016, 09:31:25 AM »
It's telling that everyone konws "vote your conscience" means don't vote for Donald Trump.  ;)

The local, Trump uber alles radio guy even called it a "dog whistle."  :lol:
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2016, 09:36:31 AM »
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Seems that way.

Lots of finger-crossing involved with handshakes, I guess.  Pinky pledges are still reliable, though... right?
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2016, 10:10:59 AM »
Quote from: fistful on July 21, 2016, 09:31:25 AM
It's telling that everyone konws "vote your conscience" means don't vote for Donald Trump.  ;)

The local, Trump uber alles radio guy even called it a "dog whistle."  :lol:

Yep.  Everyone knows Trump is a loathsome person.  The only reason to vote for Trump is that Hillary is even worse.

Of course, if primary voters were worried about Hillary getting elected, they won't have voted for the most unpopular candidate in the race among the general election voters.

It galls me that we are going to get an evil hag for president when we could have had an actual conservative.  The second amendment is going to DIE in the courts once she picks a bunch of judges.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2016, 10:13:14 AM »
Quote from: roo_ster on July 21, 2016, 09:11:49 AM
0.  I expected Ted to do what Ted thought best for Ted in the speech...and I was inclined to think that Ted would parley an endorsement for either a SCOTUS nom or an appointment to Attorney General.  The former is a terminal position, the latter left open further political climbing.  Ted would have made a good AG, especially if set after the Dem moles in gov't.

1. I don't think we'll have to worry about Ted Cruz (R-Uncanny Valley) getting a spot on SCOTUS or an appointment in the Trump Administration.

2. I also think that Cruz thought this a smart move, setting himself up for 2020 vs Trump or Hillary. 

3. Thing is, Ted is like Hillary in that the more folk see and hear him, they less they like him (see Uncanny Valley).  Ted does not have the MSM to drag his carcass over the finish line while shielding him from scrutiny as they do for Hillary.  Thus I doubt Ted will ever be POTUS and he has screwed himself good and hard with his no-endorsement speech.

4. I see about zero long term damage to Trump from Ted's shenanigans.  Trump beat Ted like a drum among Christian Conservatives in the primaries and he'll do even better vs Hillary.  Trump has not yet begin to play the fear card vs Hillary, as she has done to Trump. 

5. DS is correct in that Ted left open every possible construction of his words and action on immigration.  He is very (Bill) Clintonian that way.  Heck, he is even better than Bill at that game and smarter, too.  Sadly, Ted is lacking something human inside and has not learned to convincingly feign the whole panoply of human emotion and expression.

Everything Ted Cruz does is Machiavellian calculation... while everything Trump does is...any different?
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2016, 10:16:06 AM »
Quote from: BTR on July 21, 2016, 10:10:59 AM
Yep.  Everyone knows Trump is a loathsome person.  The only reason to vote for Trump is that Hillary is even worse.

Of course, if primary voters were worried about Hillary getting elected, they won't have voted for the most unpopular candidate in the race among the general election voters.

It galls me that we are going to get an evil hag for president when we could have had an actual conservative :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:.  The second amendment is going to DIE in the courts once she picks a bunch of judges.

You have to be kidding me.  I wouldn't call Trump conservative....he is a capitalist.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2016, 10:24:52 AM »
Quote from: fistful on July 21, 2016, 09:31:25 AM
It's telling that everyone konws "vote your conscience" means don't vote for Donald Trump.  ;)

The local, Trump uber alles radio guy even called it a "dog whistle."  :lol:

I know, that's particularly hilarious to me. Because OF COURSE people's consciences have a problem with voting for Trump.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2016, 10:35:13 AM »
Quote from: fistful on July 21, 2016, 09:31:25 AM

The local, Trump uber alles radio guy even called it a "dog whistle."  :lol:

Hey, he just called me a dog!  ;)  ("if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog")
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2016, 10:37:33 AM »
To be fair, "vote your conscience" pretty much always means voting third-party or write-in. It's still funny that it has people so riled.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2016, 10:39:57 AM »
Quote from: De Selby on July 21, 2016, 08:56:34 AM
Yeah because trump has been so guarded the party voters had NO IDEA what they were voting for!

Definition of hilarious:  career politician who played every trick possible to subvert the will of voters imploring for conscience voting!

News flash:  they DID vote their conscience, which is why Ted isn't the nominee.

The GOP needs to own Trump, because he is their creature, the end result of the way they've done business for ages.

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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2016, 11:01:39 AM »
Honest question, do any of you think that the slanderous statements from Trump about Rafael Cruz and Heidi Cruz excuse Ted's lack of an explicit endorsement? Because if someone had said that ish about my family I wouldn't have endorsed him for a million bucks.
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Re: Ted Cruz booed at convention
« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2016, 12:01:29 PM »
Quote from: Jocassee on July 21, 2016, 11:01:39 AM
Honest question, do any of you think that the slanderous statements from Trump about Rafael Cruz and Heidi Cruz excuse Ted's lack of an explicit endorsement? Because if someone had said that ish about my family I wouldn't have endorsed him for a million bucks.

Perhaps, but in that case you say so up front.  And you don't accept a prime time speaking slot. 

At least he attended the convention, unlike Bushs, Romney, etc. 
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« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2016, 12:06:50 PM »
Quote from: Jocassee on July 21, 2016, 11:01:39 AM
Honest question, do any of you think that the slanderous statements from Trump about Rafael Cruz and Heidi Cruz excuse Ted's lack of an explicit endorsement? Because if someone had said that ish about my family I wouldn't have endorsed him for a million bucks.


I think it may have played a large part of it  ---- though Cruz is long known for his inability to "play well" even with other members of his own kindergarten.  Trump's quips about Cruz's wife were rude and loutish, and his idiot inference that his father had something to do with the Kennedy assassination since he allegedly had a photo with Oswald, I mean, that was the mark of a true jackwagon.  Oswald had photos made with Marina, his wife .... are we to suppose she was there in the book deposiory handing off ammo to Lee as he fired the rounds into the President??
In fact we know Marina was no where near the assassination site.
The whole thing was excercise in jackassery in its dumbest mode.
And we, the voters, are stuck with the results. :'(
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